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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#12728 of 16087 Re: The Great (Acura) TSX Debate [billyperksii]
Dec 22, 2011 (10:12 am)
billy your joking right??
1) infiniti G was the class leader in hp when they redid it in 07.. 2 years later they blow out another 30 hp into the engine- they have added a sport package in 08 , new coupe they added in 08 - a convertable in 09, a cheaper G25 (which i hate) plus now the IS line - thats just the G we are talking about--lets not forget about adding the 7 speed transmission in 09 which acura just added a new transmission this year ... Infiniti made a gamble with the G and it turned out - Please look at acura sales numbers and tell me again they are not struggling.. Again they sold less TL's the year they changed the body then the year before.
2) no idea what your talking about- i think we can all agree why cars are offered with incentives
3) My loaner comment was based on the fact it was a V6 TSX. not a TSX.
4) you can use google to find out what car companies are going with products- I know infiniti had gone to bed with MB on an engine which might be in the next G and that worries me.. another thing is the new truck thats coming is a FWD platform which again worries me. I think if infiniti wants to keep its traction is going to have to release a car in the next 2 years as BMW is going live on a new 3 for 2012..
#12729 of 16087 Re: The Great (Acura) TSX Debate [flightnurse]
Dec 22, 2011 (10:38 am)
Point of reference. From time to time, I read one poster's statement -- usually negative -- pertaining to a car or brand. Several posts later another poster challenges what the original poster said and asks if the original poster owns or has ever extensively driven the vehicle that is being trashed. Often the original poster will own up to not actually having any real hands on experience with the object of his or her ire.
I may comment on a Lexus or a Volvo -- but I would be a poser; I have test driven the S60 twice, I have not driven a Lexus of any flavor, but I have been a passenger a few times in the largest Lexus on the market (LS?)
New names appear all the time on this and the other places I post -- I can't keep up with who is a new and who is an old participant.
When I read posts that make what are presented as facts (or near-facts), I determine their veracity based on the poster's frame of reference.
Every post does not need to establish "your" background -- but, from time to time, refreshing the reader's memory as to where you are coming from, increases my interest in and the value of your post's point.
Finally, in my experience, revealing something about your ownership history, will also tend to suggest how your thoughts might be weighted or biased.
I'll try to keep my re-posts of my auto ownership to a minimum. I am, however, certain, I will either make a statement or correct another's and be challenged (for instance on my "bias" for RWD biased AWD that employs torque vectoring, and, if possible, a TorSen differential.) After so many Audis and so many driving schools, I feel up to the task of arguing what, how and why in response to a factual irregularity that may be made on the subject.
I'll offer you my apology and, as I said, try to keep repeating my auto history to a minimum.
Dec 22, 2011 (11:04 am)
Have you ever driven a 2nd generation TSX?
#12731 of 16087 Re: The Great (Acura) TSX Debate [sweendogy]
Dec 22, 2011 (11:05 am)
All I am trying to say is enough with the Acura bashing, why not post about the car you own. If their balance sheets are struggling, sooner than later we will see dealerships starting to call it quits.
I have owned my TL 28 months to date and have never once gotten a negative re-mark. I have zero problems and it puts a smile and my face whenever I put in the twisties and punching it off a ramp.
#12732 of 16087 Re: ELLPS - IS350 [flightnurse]
Dec 22, 2011 (11:23 am)
"Currently BMW is not producing any Manuel [sic] 3 series cars (except M3.)"
Try as I might, I'm unable to get my brain around that claim.
Per the BMW USA web site, in addition to various "M" cars the following 18 models are available with a manual transmission:
- 328i (Sedan)
- 328xi (Sedan)
- 335i (Sedan)
- 335xi (Sedan)
- 328i (Coupe)
- 328xi (Coupe)
- 335i (Coupe)
- 335is (Coupe)
- 335xi (Coupe)
- 328i (Convertible)
- 335i (Convertible)
- 335is (Convertible)
- 328i (Sports Wagon)
- 328xi (Sports Wagon)
Do you know something BMW-USA doesn't know?
#12733 of 16087 Re: The Great (Acura) TSX Debate [billyperksii]
Dec 22, 2011 (11:55 am)
I did not create the topic - it was started by another - "the great tsx debate" - now please rebut why the tsx should be here- also add what the brand has improved on- and where it's going -I have commented on both and it would be nice to get the other side that's unbiased.
Billy I have not stated anything that cant be backed up - reviews and sales numbers tell the story. I'm sorry you feel like the colts of the nfl. Manning is hurt maybe one day he will return to bring the team back to some relevant level.
#12734 of 16087 Re: The Great (Acura) TSX Debate [sweendogy]
Dec 22, 2011 (12:14 pm)
Who has the TSX? You (Sweendogy) or Billy? Who has what in other words.
So Sweendogy wants Billy to rebut (refute) why the TSX should be discussed in this forum, is that correct? Does this mean that Sweendogy wants the TSX to remain as one of the cars discussed here or not?
Isn't it true that the TSX is on this forum and no matter what we say it will stay?
I'm so confused.
Dec 22, 2011 (12:29 pm)
Sween has an Infiniti G37X (?). He previously owned a 1st generation TSX that he thought was an exceptional car. He's part of the anti-TSX faction here on our lovely board.
I actually own a 2010 TSX w/ Technology Pkg (4 cyl)
#12736 of 16087 Re: Who's on first [nyccarguy]
Dec 22, 2011 (1:06 pm)
actually i owned an 2000 integra Gs-r - close on the TSX but went 2003 jetta GLI instead then 08 infiniti G35x- and no i have never driven a newer TSX- first generation TSX was a great car, and i enjoyed the test drive- i was real close on it but went with the GLI because it was a (both were) 6 speed, was a tad quicker and won a head to head in some mag also had a VR6 eng and was 5k cheaper. Service between Acura and VW not close- and reliability of the GLI was no where near what I experianced with the GS-R.
#12737 of 16087 Re: The Great (Acura) TSX Debate [sweendogy]
Dec 22, 2011 (1:33 pm)
Personally, I dont care if the TSX is here yes or no- I am not intrested in the car so I abstain myself from those post.
As to what you call advancement in terms of the G- I see it as just another model year change-
1). More horsepower (wow that's really advanced)
2). Added Coupe (Wow, technological breakthrough- I guess 1st in the industry)
3)Seven speed transmission that's giving a whole lot of trouble-see the Infiniti Boards- why not eight?-I thought they were advanced.
4). Sport Package- bigger wheels and front facia-(That's some sport)
Currently, Infiniti has nothing that would warrant a visit from me their showroom. Thats just my opinion.