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#12650 of 16252 Acura changes by markcincinnati

Dec 13, 2011 (12:39 pm)

New Acura line up: 3 cars, 2 CUV's 1 Super car.
 
SMALL - ISX - a deluxe Civic (no SH-AWD apparently).
MEDIUM - TL - (maybe, MAYBE renamed) can't tell if it will remain this size or shrink or grow
LARGE - RL or maybe LEGEND (as large, interior that is, as a BMW 7 series)
 
RDX - based on CR-V, (no SH-AWD apparently).
MDX - redesigned and will hit the market in calendar 2013 (as a '14?)
 
NSX - one V6 (direct injection) 2 electric motors (for the rear)
 
The cars will not stress performance and apprently Acura owners #5 most desired content is the sound system (does that mean the ELS system will go away?)
 
Hard to tell exactly what NOT stressing performance means -- keep the current 305HP offering and make it get better MPG's? Tune the suspensions for comfort rather than handling prowess?
 
The Acura statement says something about getting away from Honda -- yet two of the 5 cars will be tarted up Hondas (which may be a good thing since the price will, apparently, be low -- but no SH-AWD?) Bummer.
 
Well, I think the performance of the '12 TL 3.7 SH-AWD Advance is very Audi-like -- will Acura hold the line and NOT improve this, or will the new TL (whatever it may be called) be tuned for a more Buick like ride and not be granted direct injection or a turbo or super-charger (option).
 
Stating that you WANT to be the best second tier car you can be seems akin to (almost) throwing in the towel.
 
My wife, lusting for an MDX to replace her FX35 (for the SH-AWD) is rethinking this now.
 
I am wondering if my '12 is my first and last Acura?
 
32 months to go.

#12651 of 16252 Re: Acura changes [markcincinnati] by sweendogy

Dec 13, 2011 (1:05 pm)

Replying to: markcincinnati (Dec 13, 2011 12:39 pm)
32 months to go - well atleast it's no a pre-2012 with the ugly beak.

#12652 of 16252 Re: Acura changes [sweendogy] by markcincinnati

Dec 13, 2011 (2:48 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 13, 2011 1:05 pm)
It's only a little bit beaky looking -- but I got it because it performed very well, was comfortable, had a great sound system and seemed like the most bang for the buck amongst my choices.
 
I do enjoy driving it, which was one of the "must have's" for me, too.
 
Reputation for reliability and durability didn't hurt any either.

#12653 of 16252 1st & Last Acuras by nyccarguy

Dec 13, 2011 (2:59 pm)

I am wondering if my '12 is my first and last Acura?
 
Mark - I wonder the same thing about my 2010 TSX. I just refinanced it again as I plan to pay it off & keep it for a while. Somebody else is going to have to make one HELLUVA car to make me not buy a BMW next.
 
Original Loan from dealer was 5.65% for 60 months.
Refinanced after 1 yr 3.44% FOR 48 months.
Refinanced again after 2 yrs 2.41% for 36 months.

#12654 of 16252 Re: 1st & Last Acuras [nyccarguy] by sweendogy

Dec 13, 2011 (4:08 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Dec 13, 2011 2:59 pm)
Look if your happy with the car and it's not a burden in costs then run it. Those cars a bullets compared to others in the group. It's a euro accord - Honda standard of good reliability. The brand is failing to excite but it's still a Honda and if your refinancing continues you will be at zero % in 2 more rounds.

#12655 of 16252 Re: 1st & Last Acuras [sweendogy] by nyccarguy

Dec 13, 2011 (5:26 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 13, 2011 4:08 pm)
That's probably the last of refinancing the TSX. Hopefully I'll be able to pay it off in 2 more years, then start doubling up on my Pilot payments to get that Paid off sooner than its original 5 year loan.

#12656 of 16252 Re: Sween [sweendogy] by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST

Dec 14, 2011 (10:11 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 13, 2011 11:55 am)
Oh, this discussion gets read every day by at least one host. It's just that I'm not going to waste time re-addressing a topic I've already addressed.

#12657 of 16252 Re: Sween [kirstie_h] by sweendogy

Dec 14, 2011 (10:55 am)

Replying to: Kirstie@Edmunds (Dec 14, 2011 10:11 am)
My comments were made towards acuras management - But sice you brought it up I Would like to know what it takes to remove a car- I mean we have seen te S60 pop in here after a few of us made comments. -

#12658 of 16252 Re: Sween [sweendogy] by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST

Dec 14, 2011 (11:25 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 14, 2011 10:55 am)
There are factors outside of this particular forum that influence vehicles included. One of those factors is the popularity of the vehicles - if we get a lot of searches on a particular make/model, that one is more likely to be included because they're the folks who are looking for information more often.
 
As for Acura people reading this discussion... who knows? I'm sure they have staff looking at comments on forums all over the 'net, but they don't usually tell us they're around and which discussions they're reading.

#12659 of 16252 Re: Sween [kirstie_h] by sweendogy

Dec 14, 2011 (11:50 am)

Replying to: Kirstie@Edmunds (Dec 14, 2011 11:25 am)
why would searches on the internet place a car in a specific category here? I would bet the Civic has more searches then say the TSX but that does not mean it should be included. right- and it isnt. We added the S60 only after it was chatted here for almost a full model year, but was clearly gunning for the group from day one- given the reviews and its marketing. Has a car ever been removed?
 
And ACURA people should be watching and listening to what the buyers want-- internet is a world wide web of knowledge.

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