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#12450 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [sweendogy] by billyperksii

Nov 14, 2011 (10:40 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 12, 2011 6:36 am)
Here we go again- reviews, sales numbers, is there anything else you base your decisions on?
Of course they are getting left behind- always playin catch up to BMW.
I pick based on value not like the masses (including yourself) who chases the trend. And by the way, whats wrong with the Millennia?
Back in 2000 that car had all the goodies any other entry luxury car had to offer, leather, 17" wheels, in dash 6 disc palyer, heated seats, fog lamps etc etc- it just did not have the luxury name that you tend to chase after.

#12451 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Nov 14, 2011 (12:52 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 12, 2011 6:36 am)
First off attacking what a person drives is the first sign of a weak debater.
 
 The Mileneum at the time was a great car, it was to have been part of the Upper Division that mazda was going introduce (Think Acrua, Infiniti and Lexus) however Mazda has $$ problems so the 929 and Mileneum never got the support from Mazda. Which is too bad since the triple rotor Cosmos would have came here to the states.
 
The G25 is a great car however it needs more HP, since the entry level 3 series makes more HP then G25. The G37 is no costing very close to that of the 335i when it comes to a few thousand dollars which adds only $10-30/m to payments why get the G37? The engine in the G37 isn't as smooth as the G35 was, or as smooth as the BMW. With the sport package the 3 series is a better handler.
 
BUT it all depends on what the buyer wants, Would I like a 400hp 3 series, YES, but I'm not willing to pay entry fee into the world of the M3. Cars are so subjective that its impossible to say what is better and what is worse.

#12452 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [billyperksii] by kdshapiro

Nov 14, 2011 (1:02 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 14, 2011 10:40 am)
I don't base my purchase decisions on reviews or sales number, but I use them to inject a sense of reality into some of these conversations. Of course, Infiniti, Acura, Cadillac is playing catch-up to BMW in one sense.
 
On the other hand each of them has their own strong characteristics that would make them a compelling purchase for some lucky buyer.

#12453 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [sweendogy] by tlong

Nov 14, 2011 (1:21 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 12, 2011 6:36 am)
Well I think you are not a good car picker and if you worked at a brokerage like you say I would not let you pick a stock either. You bot a Mazda milleneum, nuf said.
 
Strongly opinionated, aren't we? Apparently some people are ALWAYS right and couldn't possibly consider other opinions. Of course we saw that re: TSX.

#12454 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [tlong] by ctl

Nov 14, 2011 (3:42 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Nov 14, 2011 1:21 pm)
These are all good cars, and different people have different opinions and tastes, so there isn't really right or wrong here. However, to be fair, I think it was billyperksii that thrown the first stone? a cheap shot at infiniti

#12455 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [ctl] by graphicguy

Nov 15, 2011 (2:12 pm)

Replying to: ctl (Nov 14, 2011 3:42 pm)
Wait....let me get my popcorn. This should be a good show!

#12457 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [billyperksii] by sweendogy

Nov 17, 2011 (6:54 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 14, 2011 10:40 am)
Billy,
 
There is a reason why Mazda no longer makes the car- no one bought it - pretty simple so yes i can bring sales numbers and professional reviews into a conversation - mainly because they are fact. I mean for you to have an option is fine but it's your opinion not the majority - you drove the last sudo lux car built by Mazda -that no longer exists . Infiniti has a car that saved the brand - even with its " harsh engine." For 40k it's a great car loaded. Look at flight nurse she couldn't swing the extra 10-30 bux a month and is stuck in the 328 when she wanted the 335 she keeps writting about. Btw I love when people talk about monthly payment verse actual cost - for me 10k is a significant number if your buying a car. If I was in that situation I would have test drove a g37xs just to actually see how it road.

#12459 of 16249 Re: New 3 series [sweendogy] by billyperksii

Nov 18, 2011 (7:48 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 17, 2011 6:54 pm)
Sweeny, I love you man but we are not always on the same page when it comes to logic and reasoning- aka-common sense.
If I inderstand you correctly, you are saying that if a professional sates an opinion in their article it is a fact?- really.
So lets take for example, Mr.X states that the Mercedes E63 styling is a little on the Edgy side-is that a fact or his opinion?
Better yet if Mr.Y states in his article that the G37X ride is harsh, tiresome and downright not suitable for the human body is that a fact or an opinion?- let me take a guess-its a FACT because the professional said so!!!!!
Bottom line, I value my own.
Secondly, the Millennia was a great car, I chose it over the I35, I could not live with that rear I BEAM that came with the I35-no love lost.

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