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#12305 of 16087 BMW vs. Acura TSX by nyccarguy

Oct 20, 2011 (1:12 pm)

I would say the 328 gives up nothing to the TSX as far as reliability goes. The E90 3 series platform has been around since 2005. My Mom had an '08 328xi that never went into the shop for anything other than scheduled maintenance. Yes she had to put brakes on at 50,100 miles & pay for an Inspection II 58,000 miles, but nothing ever broke.
 
In my experience, you CANNOT compare Audi & BMW when it comes to maintenance & repairs. I'm not saying BMWs are perfect, they've had problems with the N54 Twin Turbo

#12306 of 16087 Re: 328iX or TSX [flightnurse] by andres3

Oct 20, 2011 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Oct 20, 2011 10:32 am)
My view on BMW 3 series is that if you can't spring for the good one (335ix) then get the TSX/TL, G35, A4, or whoever else your looking at.
 
Acura's have great resale value as well, not far from BMW, so that's almost a nonfactor.
 
If you are planning on keeping it a long time, I'd bet on the Acura costing you a lot less in both maintenance and repairs.

#12307 of 16087 Re: BMW vs. Acura TSX [nyccarguy] by andres3

Oct 20, 2011 (2:50 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Oct 20, 2011 1:12 pm)
In my experience, you CANNOT compare Audi & BMW when it comes to maintenance & repairs. I'm not saying BMWs are perfect, they've had problems with the N54 Twin Turbo
 
I've heard a lot more anecdotal evidence that is BAD for BMW reliability in the last 5-7 years than I have for Audi. That being said, if you maintain either properly, you should have a fairly reliable car by any standard (and it helps if you avoid lots of add-on options, as those tend to be the trouble spots). My Audi has been relatively reliable for the 83,000 miles I've driven it since 2006. Perfect no, bothersome, no. If your looking for bulletproof NEVER have to take it back to the dealer, the answer is Acura more often than not.

#12308 of 16087 Re: 328iX or TSX [andres3] by shipo

Oct 20, 2011 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Oct 20, 2011 2:46 pm)
"My view on BMW 3 series is that if you can't spring for the good one (335ix) then get the TSX/TL, G35, A4, or whoever else your looking at."
 
Seriously? You consider a 328i a "Bad" BMW? Geez, silly me; I'm thinking a 328i (or better yet the 2.0 liter turbo F30 model which is slated to be the 328i replacement) is pretty much the perfect BMW for me. Why? Given that my 2002 530i SP 5-Speed was so close to absolutely perfect for my needs, wants, and desires, and given that the E90 and the F30 are almost spot on in every metric, but with a bit more leg room, a tad more power and slightly less weight, the "Bad" 3-Series couldn't be more "Gooder" for me (unless we’re blessed with something like a 6-Speed manual 325d on this side of the pond).

#12309 of 16087 Re: BMW vs. Acura TSX [andres3] by nyccarguy

Oct 20, 2011 (5:44 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Oct 20, 2011 2:50 pm)
Even the heaviest 328xi (AWD & Automatic) is a very entertaining car to drive.
 
I agree 100% with shipo's comments. The F30 328i (2.0T) with a 6-speed stick is going to make it very hard to keep my "pay off the TSX in 5 years & drive it until it is 10 years old" promise to myself.

#12310 of 16087 Re: BMW vs. Acura TSX [andres3] by 2233

Oct 20, 2011 (9:14 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Oct 20, 2011 2:50 pm)
Acuras in general are not bulletproof.
 
The transmissions on the TL and MDX have been terrible with some on their second and third transmissions.
 
I do not know if this applies to the TSX but Acura's two best sellers, the TL and MDX have had problems with the trannies for many years.

#12311 of 16087 Re: BMW vs. Acura TSX [2233] by tlong

Oct 21, 2011 (12:51 am)

Replying to: 2233 (Oct 20, 2011 9:14 pm)
I do not know if this applies to the TSX but Acura's two best sellers, the TL and MDX have had problems with the trannies for many years.
 
Well my '05 TL has 113K bulletproof miles on it to date. Of course anything could happen tomorrow, and one car doesn't make a statistic. But I suspect the problems are only noteworthy because of how reliable the Acuras are. If it were a GM or Chrysler nobody would even notice.

#12312 of 16087 So few cross-shoppers. by markcincinnati

Oct 21, 2011 (7:23 am)

This thread is more than a tad interesting since I, for one and apparently MORE than one, seem to find some surprise that the TSX and a 3 series BMW (even though it is the "bad" one) merit cross-shopping.
 
The TL SH-AWD seems like the obvious choice to cross shop an AWD BMW 3 series with, assuming one must cross shop an Acura and a BMW.
 
But, of the choices offered up in this thread, I would find the Audi 2.0T quattro with the pre-paid maintenance (or perhaps the Volvo S60 T6) to be even more of an apples-to-apples comparison worthy of cross-shopping. Then I look at my recent purchase of a TL, after 29 Audis in a row, and knowing what I cross shopped, well maybe I see the rationale of shopping for both a BMW 3 X-drive and a TL SH-AWD (but never a TSX.)
 
Having had three AWD BMW's since 1988 (in addition to the 29 Audi's), there is no comparison between the BMW and the TSX in terms of the "feel-behind-the-wheel" -- and, moreover, in winter, four driven wheels are much better than two, even if those two are the fronts.
 
Although not comparable to the BMW in terms of the "ultimate driving experience" the TL SH-AWD does a better imitation of an Audi A4 2.0T quattro Prestige than any other Japanese car I test drove. In fact the TL SH-AWD Advance (which adds 19" wheels and tires) actually felt pretty competent compared with an 2011 Audi S4 Premium+.
 
Given the two choices you offered up for us to weigh in on, the TSX is only comparable to the BMW in that they both have four wheels -- the BMW is THAT much better.
 
 

#12313 of 16087 Re: BMW vs. Acura TSX [2233] by flightnurse

Oct 21, 2011 (9:10 am)

Replying to: 2233 (Oct 20, 2011 9:14 pm)
Please point me in the direction for proof of your comment about the tranny problems on the TL and MDX's. I have never owned a TL or MDX, but have friends who have/had and not one had a transmission problem.

#12314 of 16087 Re: BMW vs. Acura TSX [flightnurse] by kirstie_h HOST

Oct 21, 2011 (9:20 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Oct 21, 2011 9:10 am)
If you look to the right, you'll see a keyword search box for the forums.
 
Try "acura transmission."
 
The first two discussions that are listed (in order of most recent activity) are those for the MDX and the TL.

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