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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#12241 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Oct 08, 2011 (10:04 am)
I agree, the price of the G has risen a little bit over the last few year, but I don't agree that the best bang for your buck is the BMW, yet that is. The G37 compares to the 335 and not the 328. If you did make the comparison you are, your 328i is going to lack almost 100hp, bi-xenon headlights, navigation, and a couple of other little toys and tech you only get in the 335 when ordered that your getting for the same price in the G37. I do agree though that the BMW is more refined then the G, but definitely not the best bang for the buck yet.
I'm eagerly awaiting the next gen 2013 G and 3 series. It should be interesting to see what Infiniti and BMW do with their bread and butter vehicles.
Oct 08, 2011 (1:07 pm)
Stopped by to look at the G series today.... we were a little too ragged out to drive one....
But, they have decent lease deals.. 39mo./39K lease on a G37X with premium pkg (MSRP about $41K) for $440/mo.+tax.. with around $900 total due at signing.. Add sport package for another $10/mo.
That's better than Audi or BMW, right now.. and.. 328 HP...
#12243 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [smarty666]
Oct 08, 2011 (4:25 pm)
Yes the G37 has 100 more HP, but as I wrote what I paid for my 328 is very close to the base price of a G37, there is no way you are going to get Nav, bi-xenon headlights or other goodies that I have on my 328 in that G37. The base price for a G37S is far more then what I paid for my 328i.
Now if one wants to compare the average price of a 335i to a G37S the BMW is better value.
#12244 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Oct 08, 2011 (5:49 pm)
which base did you beat the G37 which is 37k even or the 41500 for a fully loaded G37S-- you lost me because you mentioned both..with haggling you can get a G for 2-4k off each car given the dealer. how much did you pay, was this a cpo?
does your car have the sports package, navi, rear camera like the G37s has?
does your car have the headlights, sunroof, leather, and paint (500bux extra for Bmw) that the G37 base has?
I dont have the avg price people are paying for the 335 or the G37S but given the options that are standard on the G its got to be close to 8k..maybe more--i own a G and want a 335-
#12245 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Oct 08, 2011 (6:24 pm)
Just did a quick build on each website and the 328xi comparably equipped(as I could get) was about $5k more than the G37x. Plus you get the +100hp to boot with the G. The 328 may be a little better driver and smoother runner but for value it's hard to beat the G. Infinitis are extremely reliable and trouble free for the most part. I have one(QX4) that is 9 years old and it has had only two repairs(exhaust resonator and power antenna) other than scheduled maint.
#12246 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Oct 09, 2011 (7:32 am)
Nah, they are taking 4k off a fully loaded G37 at my two local Infiniti dealers and I'll bet it is similar in discounts your received on your 328i so the G still in all trims is a better bang for your buck then the 328i. Also a G37 is fully loaded with nav, sport, etc for around 44k, before any discounts. It still undercuts the 335i in price. As almost all the 335i my local BMW has are priced in the high 40s to low 50s. The G even undercuts that price.
I'm not saying the 328i or 335i are bad vehicles, in fact I really liked them when I test drove both but they still don't compare to the bang for buck of G.
#12247 of 16984 Re: Been Thinking [nyccarguy]
Oct 09, 2011 (8:05 am)
Something I noticed this weekend when reading a somewhat favorable review of the 2012 Acura TL: They have a new 3.7L engine with 305 HP 6000 rpm and 273 pound-feet 5000 rpm.
How is it that the MB C350 (pretty much the same price) has a 3.5L and it has 302 HP 6500 rpm with 273 pound-ft 3500 rpm. One thing I would give Honda is that they were always able to wring the HP out of their small engines even if they had to rev them to 9k rpms. Now they need an engine almost 6% larger just to match MB and the peak torque is at a relatively high 5k rpm.
#12248 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [smarty666]
Oct 09, 2011 (8:34 am)
I think you are assuming too much, each region is completely different when it comes to discount, rebates, leases and equipment. I know here on the west side of the country Infiniti is hurting for cars, so discounts are far and few. So when I do a comparison its done with the fact of what the prices were I live.
The Base price for a G37 is $36K, and it does not come with Nav, now to add the Tech package to get Nav and Sport package is $41K. This was more then my 328 with M sport package.
The G37 sport is 41K..
Just for the record my BMW is 328i with M sport package, with value package which includes leather, ipod connection (free) moonroof, and access entry, cost out the door was $37K. This includes 4yr 50K of free maintenance and service, I tend to run my BMWs hard and go through brakes, the clutch is covered under BMWs warranty so if needed, I wont have to pay anything, something Infiniti does not do.
#12249 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]
Oct 09, 2011 (11:53 am)
good luck with the 328i nice car with the M package. If your looking at 6speed manuals which i love, btw, the infiniti fully loaded is 41k, there is not add on packages to get-whats in the box is in the box if you get the G with the manual.. and your right certain areas are offer different discounts BUT you have to remember BMW 3 series is changing for 2012 and the company wants all stock out the door. Now the maintenance is interesting... if you are like me and don't drive say 8-10k miles a year your looking at 1 tire rotation and 2 oilchanges a year- and if you are looking at somewhat equal cars (335) the 5-8-10k (whatever the dollar amt is) is not worth the free maintenace that all bmw owner crow about. Trust me I have the G and have spent 500 bux total in 4years- they run like tops.
#12250 of 16984 Re: Graphicguy [m6user]
Oct 09, 2011 (12:04 pm)
Having test driven the G37x (coupe) and bought a 335i xDrive, I can say that the 3 has more HP than BMW is claiming. Plus, it's usable power, all through the rev range. The G is a good car. But, comparatively, the 335 is very easy to drive very fast. Still, not a bad car between the two.
kyfdx...I had mentioned you can get BMW's factory performance upgrade for the 335 to add 20 HP for $600. I just got it done on Friday. Made an amazing car "amaziner".