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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11891 of 16984 Re: In the market... [fedlawman]
Jun 10, 2011 (12:06 pm)
unrefined i laugh at that- the engine has been a work horse for nissan for years-has won engine of the year multiple times over (in prev variations) - it throws out 330 hp and gets ok fuel economy. Its not a bmw engine no, but its not unrefined -- drive a base dodge charger and you'll worry about "throw a rod" as you try to get on a local on ramp. Infiniti might be louder then BMW but again its different - i think infiniti was going for more of a muscle car sound at open throttle- we all can agree bmw is ahead when it comes to the class but infiniti is not far behind given the price points, the power, the sporty nature and quality.
i own a infiniti g35x from 2007, actually looking for bmw 335xi sport 6 speed manual and would not be if infiniti put a 6 speed in awd form.
#11893 of 16984 Re: In the market... [nyccarguy]
Jun 10, 2011 (12:24 pm)
Ya' know, I've been a member of edmunds since 1999. In the 12 years since I have joined a lot has changed in my life.
At this point, I am looking for a comfortable cruiser with decent gas mileage.
In my quest I decided to lowball the dealers because I am ready to take delivery with the right price. if I can't get the deal I want for the specific car, I'll move on to the next manufacturer/dealer.
As far as the IS250 it is way to small for me at this point in time.
#11894 of 16984 Re: In the market... [kdshapiro]
Jun 10, 2011 (12:53 pm)
I notice you had the ES350 as a possible but not the 2012 TL. A lot of people are turned off by the styling which started in 2009 and that may be the reason. However, the 2012 has smoothed out lines and a lot better looking grill. It's probably right in between the G and the ES as far as ride/handling goes and gets 20city/29hwy with the new 6spd auto trans on the front wheel drive version which IMO is pretty good for a roomy luxury car.
#11895 of 16984 Re: In the market... [m6user]
Jun 10, 2011 (2:55 pm)
I am turned off by Acuras' styling direction. Maybe I'll look at the 2012. I am not a fan of the front grille at all. It's way worse than the Bangled up 745s; which I kind of liked, but everybody else hated.
#11896 of 16984 Re: In the market... [kdshapiro]
Jun 10, 2011 (3:16 pm)
Hear ya but they really did tone down the grill a bunch. I didn't like the styling either until I saw the 2012 at the auto show. Now the car is on my short list.
#11897 of 16984 Re: In the market... [littlejoe613]
Jun 10, 2011 (8:47 pm)
You may have to do some more up-to-date research before commenting.......the resonant tailpipe tone on my G37 Coupe is intentional. The resale for my leased G37 is 56 percent which I understand is great for this segment.
Hmm, I wasn't aware that I had to do "research" to your standards in order to comment here. Thanks for the advice but I've done the research....and, I owned a 2009 Infiniti coupe. While reliable, the "intentional", as you call it, tailpipe tone was just plain annoying. As for resale, you can quote any number you can dig up but what counts is what a person can actually get for their car in the real world, and it was not great.
With 4 BMW's owned, sorry to disappoint you, but they all were stellar in terms of their lack of repair issues. I'll take any of them over the two Infinitis I've owned or the two my son has had.
My bringing up the VW CC was mainly in response to KD's mentioning of the Lexus ES350. Not every car we become interested in have to be MT's or the road-burning classic "enthusiast" cars.
Ultimately the comments we express here are based on our OPINIONS, and even though you may not agree with them, mine count as much as yours or anyones .
#11898 of 16984 Re: In the market... [rayainsw]
Jun 11, 2011 (5:11 am)
I'm drooling good luck with your quest.
#11899 of 16984 Re: In the market... [carnaught]
Jun 11, 2011 (7:28 am)
With 4 BMW's owned, sorry to disappoint you, but they all were stellar in terms of their lack of repair issues.
Ditto, except I've owned nine(currently have 3); in my garage the poster child for mechanical issues and high repair costs has been my 2007 Mazdaspeed 3.
#11900 of 16984 Re: In the market... [carnaught]
Jun 11, 2011 (9:59 am)
Actually he is right on the resale values. Infiniti's have gotten consistently high ratings for resale value from several professional sources, one being ALG. I think Infiniti actually won the ALG residual value award this year from Acura which had it the last two years.
BTW - If you trade your car into a dealership, no matter what make it is, your going to get hosed on what you get for it. But if you sell it privately you'll be able to use the high resale value to your advantage.