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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11665 of 16984 Re: Let's get to the facts [sweendogy]
Oct 10, 2010 (12:54 pm)
Seriously, what is wrong with you? For the last time, I DID NOT say TSX sales tanked, I said TSX sales HAD NOT TANKED!
Just because they have decreased over the last two years by a few thousand does not mean they are tanking and as I just showed you in a post above, the TSX is higher in sales this year thus far then at this time last year hence a upward rise.
Yeah, your figures really showed how bad the TSX sales have tanked
And here is the figures for the TL to show its decrease in sales and thus poor sales performance, taken from Acura media newsroom.
YTD - 1.8%
TL 2004 Sales: 77,895
TL 2005 Sales: 78,218
TL 2006 Sales: 72,348
TL 2007 Sales: 58,545
TL 2008 Sales: 48,766
TL 2009 Sales: 33,620
As you can see, the sales decrease in the TL is quite substantial compared to the TSX and hence why I have said tanked for the TL. It is sad considering the TL was Acura's bread and butter model for so many years and that now has changed to the MDX. You can state a whole host of reasons why it dropped but its safe to say that the TSX has been a better success for them then the TL is right now.
#11667 of 16984 Re: Let's get to the facts [smarty666]
Oct 10, 2010 (1:30 pm)
run forest run, - again -i did not disagree with you, just wanted the numbers... re-read what i said i was agreeing with you, take a deep breath- but thanks for reposting the TL numbs, good stuff, this was something I posted in the 2009 TL chat months ago..as a weird twist you replied to that one too..
Oct 10, 2010 (6:26 pm)
Seems I saw a story on a new 3.5 from Mercedes that would bump HP to ~ 300 or so. This was a month or so ago - but no reference to what models would get it first. Are there any hints when it may arrive in the C class?
#11669 of 16984 Re: Let's get to the facts [smarty666]
Oct 10, 2010 (7:05 pm)
Isn't the entire auto market up over 20% '09 vs. '10? If so, a 7.7% rise means the TSX is not holding its own.
FWIW, IMHO the new TSX is another example of how Honda is going all wrong lately -- bigger, softer, and more tarted up with gadgets. But not better.
#11670 of 16984 Re: Let's get to the facts [smarty666]
Oct 10, 2010 (8:16 pm)
Do you work for Acura in California or a local dealership?
#11671 of 16984 Re: Let's get to the facts [duke39]
Oct 11, 2010 (5:02 am)
Yeah, I worked for both That is why I posted numbers showing the TL's huge sales decline over the last few years
Oct 11, 2010 (6:25 am)
This is getting too personal. As fedlawman mentioned, we're talking about cars here... there's no need to get all bent out of shape if someone disagrees with your perspective.
#11673 of 16984 Re: MB 3.5 V6 [murphydog]
Oct 11, 2010 (8:05 am)
Didn't see that murpdog but it seems they prob need to do something- I don't know how well the c class is selling. Don't see many in newengland- the C63/C65 is a monster and they prob need a better bridge to that car from the C350.
#11674 of 16984 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [sweendogy]
Oct 11, 2010 (11:56 am)
Ah. I thought the game was all Germans.
Yeah, I didn't think they fit that well. For instance, lush leather ain't in a C series.