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#11489 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [gbosil] by jimbres

Sep 22, 2010 (11:32 am)

Replying to: gbosil (Sep 22, 2010 11:04 am)
Easy, big fella. I've been a subscriber to CR since the 1970s, & as I write this, I'm looking at the April 2010 Annual Auto Issue. For the 3-series BMW, CR's "New-Car Prediction" is "Better than Average", which happens the be the same rating that CR gives to the Acura TL & which also happens to beat the "Average" rating that the Toyota Camry V-6 gets.
 
The 5-series BMW's rating is only "Average", but that's mainly because of problems that owners have had with its sound system. The critical major systems - engine, transmission, fuel system, electrical system, etc. - get mostly "Much Better than Average", with a few getting "Better than Average". And let's face it: a bum car stereo is annoying but it won't leave you stranded 500 miles from home.

#11490 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [gbosil] by shipo

Sep 22, 2010 (1:09 pm)

Replying to: gbosil (Sep 22, 2010 11:04 am)
Many folks, myself included, consider Consumer Reports data highly-HIGHLY suspect. So much so that when they declared the 2002 530i the "best car we've ever tested", I nearly cancelled the order I placed on a 2002 530i SP 5-Speed the week before they made said declaration.

#11491 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [jimbres] by smarty666

Sep 22, 2010 (1:56 pm)

Replying to: jimbres (Sep 22, 2010 11:32 am)
Not just that, but there seems to be problem with the wheel alignment on the new 5-Series. There is a discussion on edmunds talking about it and I've seen it mentioned on two other sites as well. Hope BMW gets a fix quick for it b/c so far no luck according to the new owners.

#11492 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [shipo] by roadburner

Sep 22, 2010 (2:45 pm)

Replying to: shipo (Sep 22, 2010 7:58 am)
Like it or don't, believe it or not, many-many of us have owned and driven BMWs for many tens (and even hundreds) of thousands of miles with nor or very minimal issues.
 
Don't spoil their fun, they need those urban legends to justify their "sour grapes" attitude...

#11493 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [smarty666] by jimbres

Sep 22, 2010 (2:47 pm)

Replying to: smarty666 (Sep 22, 2010 1:56 pm)
That's why I avoid buying the 1st year of a new model. Even so, I'm confident that BMW will come up with a fix.

#11494 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [smarty666] by shipo

Sep 22, 2010 (4:36 pm)

Replying to: smarty666 (Sep 22, 2010 1:56 pm)
As I understand it, the issue isn't the alignment of the new 5-Series per-se, it is a software issue. I'm curious to find out what has changed between the prototype models and the production models that would cause such an issue.

#11495 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [shipo] by smarty666

Sep 22, 2010 (6:11 pm)

Replying to: shipo (Sep 22, 2010 4:36 pm)
well the software glitch is causing an alignment issue since owners are reporting the cars are pulling to the right as I understand it; they say BMW has issued a fix for the software problem but many drivers who had it applied are still getting the pull

#11496 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [smarty666] by shipo

Sep 23, 2010 (2:48 am)

Replying to: smarty666 (Sep 22, 2010 6:11 pm)
Not to worry, they'll get it right.

#11497 of 16087 G25 by nyccarguy

Sep 23, 2010 (5:55 am)

Infiniti just announced pricing for the G25. $31,XXX. 7 speed automatic only, no sport suspension. So what will this G25 top out at? $34K? I'm out.
 
An almost fully loaded G37S w/ six speed stick stickers for $39,XXX & sells for what, $35-36K?
 
I'll take 108 extra horsepower for $2000 please Alex

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