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#11477 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666] by eclipse2

Sep 20, 2010 (6:30 pm)

Replying to: smarty666 (Sep 17, 2010 3:47 pm)
You are wrong! I have been buying Acura's from 1991 to 2008 I got sick of the no power I had the 2008 TL type s before that I had the 2006 RL and the 2007 MDX and before that 2003 TL type s the funny thing the MDX was the fastest....lol I got rid of the 2008 TL for the Lexus IS-f got rid of the 2007 MDX for the 2008MB GL550 my wifes!! and got rid of the RL for the 2010 MB E550 all these cars drive way better then any Acura can think about I was waiting for the RL to come out with a V8 back in 2009 didn't happen and then they come out with that new nose...lmao prestige has nothing to do with it getting better designs and RWD and POWER which Acura don't have..

#11478 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [eclipse2] by jimbres

Sep 20, 2010 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: eclipse2 (Sep 20, 2010 6:30 pm)
I have been buying Acura's from 1991 to 2008 I got sick of the no power I had the 2008 TL type s before that I had the 2006 RL and the 2007 MDX and before that 2003 TL type s the funny thing the MDX was the fastest....lol I got rid of the 2008 TL for the Lexus IS-f got rid of the 2007 MDX for the 2008MB GL550 my wifes!! and got rid of the RL for the 2010 MB E550 all these cars drive way better then any Acura can think about I was waiting for the RL to come out with a V8 back in 2009 didn't happen and then they come out with that new nose...lmao prestige has nothing to do with it getting better designs and RWD and POWER which Acura don't[sic]have..
 
Wow. I've been an Edmunds member since the fall of '98 - 12 years ago - & that's the longest single sentence I've ever seen here.
 
Congrats!

#11479 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [eclipse2] by smarty666

Sep 20, 2010 (7:09 pm)

Replying to: eclipse2 (Sep 20, 2010 6:30 pm)
If you had read the second post I put up, I said prestige was not the sole and only factor but it has a lot to do with the BMW and MB choices. If you don't think so then your just kidding yourself and if you looked closely at what I was comparing and talking about it was vehicles that were comparably equipped between the German and Japanese automakers. That means, same size engines, features, technology, etc. The Germans are always going to cost a few thousand more. It is more a statement of fact then opinion. That is just the way it is.
 
Your absolutely right that Acura currently has lacked in the hardcore sport performance offerings of RWD and V8 but not every body needs that. I certainly have no issues with performance out of my 3G TL's but not everyone is so happy and wants more. If you want sport performance with a V8 and RWD go get a BMW or Infiniti, plain and simple. That is why there are choices in the luxury market.

#11480 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [fedlawman] by ivan_99

Sep 20, 2010 (7:54 pm)

Replying to: fedlawman (Sep 20, 2010 5:46 pm)
Love the 300ZX turbo...almost bought one (used).
 
1990 -- $35,000 = $58,000 in 2010 dollars.
 
I remember by mid 90's they were selling for around $50k...which = $71k in todays dollars.
 
Makes the 370Z look like a bargain (even the 3 series)...of course there are new features, equipment, safety on the new models...different times of course.
 
Wasn't cheap.

#11481 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [ivan_99] by fedlawman

Sep 21, 2010 (7:33 am)

Replying to: ivan_99 (Sep 20, 2010 7:54 pm)
Same here. I wanted a 300ZX turbo bad - and later, the Supra Turbo. Every now and then, I see a super clean one on the road and still think about maybe finding one.
 
But you're right. The 300ZX turbo, RX7 Turbo, Supra Turbo and 3000GT were too expensive in their day. Nobody wanted to pay German money for a Japanese car. Looking back though, it's amazing how ahead of their time these cars were.

#11482 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [billyperks2] by gbosil

Sep 22, 2010 (5:58 am)

Replying to: billyperks2 (Sep 17, 2010 9:00 am)
Agreed. A buddy of mine has a 2010 335XI and just had the Steering Column replaced at 5,500 miles ? ? ? ? Huh? WTF! I know plenty of people who own BMWs and have had nothing but problems including major electrical issues. In fact my one buddy had to keep replacing his headlight bulbs on his 330XI every 6 - 9 months or so because they kept burning out! They couldn't pinpoint what the problem was. After 50K kiss your A$$ good bye! Brakes alone are $1,500!! Run flats standard! Pony up another $1,500! Whatever good luck!

#11483 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [jimbres] by gbosil

Sep 22, 2010 (6:09 am)

Replying to: jimbres (Sep 20, 2010 6:40 pm)
LOL!

#11484 of 16087 Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil] by billyperks2

Sep 22, 2010 (7:36 am)

Replying to: gbosil (Sep 22, 2010 5:58 am)
My co-worker had the 528I- he said the car spent half its life at dealership, he finally traded it in for the ES350.

#11485 of 16087 Urban legends... by shipo

Sep 22, 2010 (7:58 am)

All you folks are doing is to further the urban legends where folks say stuff like, "My brother-in-law's sister's ex-boy friend's great uncle had a problem with his BMW, therefore they're all crap!"
 
The fact is, every car maker has issues on occasion, Acura included (thinking transmissions here among other foibles). As a suggestion, unless you can say something positive and helpful to the group, don't say it at all.
 
Like it or don't, believe it or not, many-many of us have owned and driven BMWs for many tens (and even hundreds) of thousands of miles with nor or very minimal issues.

#11486 of 16087 Re: Urban legends... [shipo] by billyperks2

Sep 22, 2010 (9:26 am)

Replying to: shipo (Sep 22, 2010 7:58 am)
We have to say both- positive and negative to enlighten potential buyers.
I had the 2003 TL Type S, the car was bullet proof for 30K miles then the transmission gave way-repalced under warranty (according to dealer).

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