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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11376 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [sweendogy]
Aug 21, 2010 (11:17 am)
Through the years I've owned a Toyota Supra, an Acura TL, Acura CL, an Acura MDX and a 2004 Infiniti G35 and my wife has a 2007 G35. Owned several Accords and a Prelude. All nice cars.
However, the transmissions went out after the warranty on the TL and the MDX. We had a great deal of problems with the CL. The transmission went out on my brother's MDX and his Accord. All of these transmission blow ups occurred shortly after the extended warranty ended.
Older Accords were bulletproof and unbelievably reliable. Transmission problems there now too.
The Infinitis are fun to drive, reliable, great looking, and reasonably priced. MPG suffer a bit but it's not bad. Their AWD is amazing and the car is 100% rear wheel drive unless it detects a need to use the front wheels
When the new body style on the G37 sedan comes out in a year or two, I will be one of the first in line to test drive it.
#11377 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up 
Aug 21, 2010 (11:46 am)
I forgot to mention another important point.
Infinitis (and Nissans) have timing chains. Hondas And Acuras have timing belts.
Timing belts are $600-800 to replace and if they break, it probably will cost you a new engine.
Timing chains are virtually indestructible.
#11378 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up 
Aug 21, 2010 (12:32 pm)
Not all Honda/Acuras have timing belts. For example, the RDX and 4 cylinder TSX use a timing chain.
Even though the timing chains are generally lifetime items, one should replace tensioners and guides every 100,000 miles. The Infiniti uses 3 timing chains, and replacing the tensioners and guides involves removing the exhaust, starter, AC compressor and upper oil pan - about 11 book hours.
How much do you think your dealer will charge for that?!?!
#11379 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [fedlawman]
Aug 21, 2010 (2:38 pm)
I wasn't aware that the 4 cyl TSX and the RSX use a timing chain.
I've never heard of a timing chain breaking or needing replacing. It may be expensive if it did happen but it rarely happens.
Timing belts are a maintenance item and are expensive to replace. If the timing belt breaks while you are operating the vehicle, a new engine will generally be required. I've heard of many timing belts breaking which cause at minimum a bent valve, a hole in your piston or a need for a total engine overhaul.
If you are lucky and your Acura timing belt does not break, you can use the money you save to buy a new transmission. Check the Acura posts if you don't believe me.
#11380 of 16087 Acura's lousy trannies
Aug 21, 2010 (3:01 pm)
Until Acura gets the transmission issues of the MDX, RL, and TL resolved, I would never consider an Acura.
Many TLs are on their 3rd transmission according to this Edmunds site.
#11381 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up 
Aug 21, 2010 (6:30 pm)
"I've never heard of a timing chain breaking or needing replacing. It may be expensive if it did happen but it rarely happens."
Replace your timing belt every 6 years or 100,000 miles (whichever comes first) and it will be as reliable as a chain.
"Timing belts are a maintenance item and are expensive to replace."
A basic timing belt service will run $300 at an independent mechanic. You'll only pay $600 if you include a new tensioner, idler pulley, serpentine belt, and water pump.
Have you priced new tensioners, guides, serpentine belt, and water pump for the Infiniti?
#11382 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [fedlawman]
Aug 22, 2010 (7:54 am)
The Acura's with timing belts are interference types which means you will likely need a new engine if your belt breaks. Not so with chains.
Have you priced new engines for an Acura?
How about new transmissions for an Acura?
#11383 of 16087 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up 
Aug 22, 2010 (8:05 am)
Gravity pulls objects down, so if lightning strikes the tree next to your driveway and the tree falls on your Infiniti, you'll likely need a new car.
#11384 of 16087 Check CR Reliability History Charts
Aug 23, 2010 (4:47 am)
The major/widespread transmission issues with Acura vehicles ended in either 2005 or the 2004 model year. People with 2006+ model years are not running into transmission issues like you guys are trying to imply. Go and check CR's reliability history charts for all the Acura models and you'll see that. Starting with the 2006 model years, the transmissions got above avg or much above avg ratings. If you look at the charts, the black dots for transmission issues were for 2004 model year and earlier. I have had two TL's so far, one which had a lot of miles on it, and had absolutely no issues.
Get your facts straight before you go bad mouthing an entire brand. To anyone else, if you get an Acura model 2006+, you'll have little to no worry about transmission issues. Very very reliable vehicles.
#11385 of 16087 Re: Check CR Reliability History Charts [smarty666]
Aug 23, 2010 (6:43 am)
I guess you neglected to check the Acura transmission problem section on Edmunds.
There are many posts about transmission and clutch problems in 2006 vehicles, not just 2005 and prior models.
Remember, it took several years before the transmission problems surfaced regarding the transmission failures of TLs from 1999-2005. Now the problems with the 2006 transmissions are surfacing. Next year we may hear about problems from 2007.
Acura's customer service and care are terrible at the national level also.