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#11339 of 16251 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [sweendogy] by marcus216

Aug 12, 2010 (7:02 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Aug 11, 2010 5:42 pm)
Bloodlines in automobiles don't really mean much to me. How a 2000 BMW 5 Series compared to a 2000 TL does not apply to how current models compare to each other. BMW 5 Series has always been the standard bearer for luxury performance sedans. My point is that my 2010 TL SH-AWD compares very well to a 2010 BMW 535IX in acceleration, handling, over all drving dynamics, interior appointments, and build quality. One can call the TL and "entry level" performance sedan because of the price point, but in real world driving, it measures up quite well. Regarding the Buick Lacrosse, I looked at it when I was car shopping. I would call the LaCrosse and "entry level' luxury sedan. It is more Lexus like. It is a comforable highway cruising car with a great interior, decent handling and driving dynamics. It has a totally different feel than a 5 Series or TL SH-AWD. And probably appeals to a different buyer. I was looking for performance more than luxury and TL delivers in that department quite well.
 
FYI, I also shopped the Taurus SHO. Now that was an interesting car. Extremely large, but drove much smaller. Absolutely killer engine. Nice interior and the Ford SYNC system is great. I might have leased one except that the TL came in almost $200 per rmonth less for cars that had similar list price and similar equipment.

#11340 of 16251 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [billyperks2] by jtla

Aug 13, 2010 (8:52 am)

Replying to: billyperks2 (Aug 12, 2010 6:26 am)
the TL- at 85mph my tach is hardly at the 2500 RPM. Try doing 85mph on your G, probably you will be cranking 4000rpm easily.
 
I did last night -- 2700 rpm at 85 mph.
 
Can they make a car that does not harm the enviroment- all that gas guzzling just destroys the ozone.
 
EPA City/Hwy MPG ratings:
     G37 RWD - 19/27; G37X - 18/25
     TL FWD - 18/26; TL SH-AWD - 17/25

#11341 of 16251 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [jtla] by billyperks2

Aug 13, 2010 (9:03 am)

Replying to: jtla (Aug 13, 2010 8:52 am)
You have 7 gears now so it has improved marginally- imagine a seven speed in the TL? What does the G35 do at 85 mph?

#11342 of 16251 Gas Mileage by nyccarguy

Aug 13, 2010 (9:53 am)

Neither of these are gas mileage champs. If they got the mileage that my wife's '10 TSX gets, then we'd be talking. But you can't have everything in life.

#11343 of 16251 2011 Infiniti G25 by mz6greyghost

Aug 13, 2010 (10:31 am)

Click me!
 
Now if they could only drop the MSRP below $30K (even if it's $29,995)...

#11344 of 16251 Re: 2011 Infiniti G25 [mz6greyghost] by plekto

Aug 13, 2010 (11:57 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Aug 13, 2010 10:31 am)
Seeing as you can buy a new G37 base model for $30K with no incentives, you'll likely be able to get a G25 for closer to $25K.
 
(source: Cars Direct, Los Angeles area. $29,902 asking price plus $875 delivery)
 
Year end incentives will bring it down closer to $27-28K. And even the base model is very respectable when it comes to standard options.

#11345 of 16251 G25 by nyccarguy

Aug 13, 2010 (12:01 pm)

No 6 speed manual transmission? 218hp isn't bad, but how much torque? What kind f gas mileage is this thing going to get?

#11346 of 16251 Re: G25 [nyccarguy] by plekto

Aug 13, 2010 (12:30 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Aug 13, 2010 12:01 pm)
It's going to be Infiniti's answer to the A4 and TSX and the like - entry level luxury for the price *just above* that of a Camry or Accord. Except in this case, it'll be the same price, offer better equipment and options for the money, and be rear wheel drive.(read - out-handle the competition by a large margin)
 
As for gas mileage, expect roughly 20 city and 30 highway, give or take. Pretty much like all of the 6 cylinder luxury sedans these days. For someone like my mother, who wants a car like the G37 but without the 300+ HP, since she's just using it around town, it's perfect.
 
EDIT - Japan's site says that the car gets an average of 24mpg combined(converted to US gallons). Pretty much what we expected. 30 highway should be possible.

#11347 of 16251 HOST: Pleaase add G37 and G25 to list by jtla

Aug 13, 2010 (1:53 pm)

Current list of vehicles for this thread include: BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G35, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Lexus IS 250, Audi A4, Acura TSX.
 
The G35 has been replaced with G37 since 2009 model year. Now that G25 is unveiled and, given the fact that both IS350/250, 328/335, and TL/TSX are on the list, both G37 and G25 should also be added.
 
Thanks in advance.

#11348 of 16251 Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [billyperks2] by jtla

Aug 13, 2010 (3:44 pm)

Replying to: billyperks2 (Aug 13, 2010 9:03 am)
I think the rpm has little to do with how many gears there are in the transmission, but rather more to do with the ratio of highest gear. Maybe sween can tell us what is the rpm on G35 at 85 mph., but I doubt it would be anywhere near the 4000 rpm as you imagine. I would be very surprised if it was over 3000 rpm.

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