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#11058 of 11073 Re: 2004 tl 270 bhp vs.2005-2008 tl 258 bhp [fedlawman] by sanjo1 Nov 19, 2008 (9:12 pm)
Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 18, 2008 9:36 pm) im trying to reverse the tighter SAE standards so i can increse the horsepower back to 270 bhp like the 2004 tl Replies to this message: pat (Nov 19, 2008 9:48 pm) sanjo1 (Nov 19, 2008 10:02 pm)
#11059 of 11073 Re: 2004 tl 270 bhp vs.2005-2008 tl 258 bhp [sanjo1] by pat HOST Nov 19, 2008 (9:48 pm)
Replying to: sanjo1 (Nov 19, 2008 9:12 pm) The horsepower is the same. The way of measuring it has changed, that's all. Replies to this message: sanjo1 (Nov 19, 2008 10:02 pm)
#11060 of 11073 Re: 2004 tl 270 bhp vs.2005-2008 tl 258 bhp [pat] by sanjo1 Nov 19, 2008 (10:02 pm)
Replying to: pat (Nov 19, 2008 9:48 pm) ok thanks alot. ive been trying to figure it out for the longest.
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#11063 of 11073 Need advice. by dash5 Jul 06, 2009 (8:34 am)
Was hoping to get some advice on my search. Looking to spend no more than 22k on a used entry level luxury sedan. No more than say 40-50k miles. This would be my commute to work car, other car is a Honda CRV for family duty but this needs to be able to handle a car seat as a "plan b". My personal priority list would look something like:   1. Quiet smooth ride. Dampen road noise.   2. Luxury cabin and modern amenities. i.e. soft leather, no cheap materials and someplace to plug my ipod in.   3. Power and performance. Doesnt have to smoke everyone on the road or corner on rails but when I need to pass it should respond impressively.   4. Back seat capable of fitting a car seat and an adult if needed.   5. Drivable in bad weather. I wont say absolutely no rear wheel drive but I have previously owned an Infiniti G-35 coupe and it was nearly useless in even a light snowfall and not good in the rain.   6. Sporty style. This is subjective obviously   So. I am thinking:   2006 BMW 325xi or a 2006 Acura TL   Other candidates are the Audi A4/A6, Volvo S60 or Mercedes C class.   Any input would be welcome including options like leasing or any tips on how to get the most for my money. Replies to this message: alltorque (Jul 06, 2009 9:52 am) pv2 (Jul 06, 2009 11:40 am) bobhoops (Jul 06, 2009 8:26 pm) markcincinnati (Jul 16, 2009 1:47 pm)
#11064 of 11073 Re: Need advice. [dash5] by alltorque Jul 06, 2009 (9:52 am)
Replying to: dash5 (Jul 06, 2009 8:34 am) The BMW would certainly do your jobs but the 3-series is hardly "Luxury". A4 is cramped in the back and the C Class can be very variable on built quality/reliability. No idea about the Acura, we simply don't see them in Europe.   A6 or S60 would be my choice..............but I have to declare a bias as an S60 owner, (and a diesel at that). Best seats in the business, nice lines, very well built and typically excellent Swedish safety, (incl child seats). Between the S60 and an A6 would be a hard choice for me but the slightly more distinctive lines of the Volvo would probably win me over - again - after 2 years of enjoyable, comfortable, utterly reliable driving.   $22k would buy you an '07 or possibly '08 S60 SE Lux here in U.K. and enough change for a good weekend away...........ditto for an S80 which is even nicer.   Ah, but the iPod plug-in would be an after-market fit; but hardly a deal breaker.
#11065 of 11073 Re: Need advice. [dash5] by pv2 Jul 06, 2009 (11:40 am)
Replying to: dash5 (Jul 06, 2009 8:34 am) Someone I know told me last week she picked up a 2006 Acura TL with only 12k miles on it for $22k. Nice deal and nice car. I had a 2003 CLS and now have a 2007 TLS. My TL has an iPod input jack in the center console, not sure if an older model would. Both my TL and CL were fine in light to moderate snow as opposed to the 2 BMW 328Ci's I had. They needed separate winter tires to get through northeast winters. Good luck!
#11066 of 11073 Thanks by dash5 Jul 06, 2009 (3:49 pm)
Thanks for the tips. I think my short list will be the BMW, TL and Volvo. I suppose I could always get snow tires like you mentioned for a RWD car. Hmm.   The BMW seems to fit the bill in terms of fun to drive and status. Light on luxury and amenities, heavy on price tag and a lot of people have one.   The TL sounds like it has a lot of features and luxury, but I'm not sold on the style. Although I have to see one in person to say for sure. Red with Tan interior sounds nice. We will see.   The Volvo is the dark horse. Good value, safe, distinctive, reliable and more affordable. Again though I'm not sold on the look or performance reviews I read. Perhaps again if I see one in person in a color and trim I like and test drive it, that will come out ahead.   And now I'm seeing the TSX is considered luxury as well. Another for my short list? Replies to this message: carnaught (Jul 06, 2009 4:24 pm)
#11067 of 11073 Re: Thanks [dash5] by carnaught Jul 06, 2009 (4:24 pm)
Replying to: dash5 (Jul 06, 2009 3:49 pm) The BMW seems to fit the bill in terms of fun to drive and status. Light on luxury and amenities, heavy on price tag and a lot of people have one.   Pretty much, called right on.   The TL sounds like it has a lot of features and luxury, but I'm not sold on the style. Although I have to see one in person to say for sure. Red with Tan interior sounds nice. We will see.   Nice car, but weird looking, kind of a knight in armor without the knight.   The Volvo is the dark horse. Good value, safe, distinctive, reliable and more affordable. Again though I'm not sold on the look or performance reviews I read. Perhaps again if I see one in person in a color and trim I like and test drive it, that will come out ahead.   A nice looking and safe car but somewhat underpowered with fair interiors and gas mileage.   IMHO

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