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#11019 of 11073 Re: Audi A3 or IS 250? [jzalkin] by carnaught Jun 06, 2008 (1:50 pm)
Replying to: jzalkin (Jun 06, 2008 1:08 pm) My experience varies with yours. My GS 400 Lexus had to have two dashboards replaced because of bubbling up of the vinyl. I sold it when a third was required due to reccurrence. My Lexus service rep. called the situation, "bad product". An isolated incident? Maybe, but my 1995 LS400 and 2003 Lexus SC 460 had the same problems. The other cars I've owned including the Audis had no such problem(s).
#11021 of 11073 Re: Audi A3 or IS 250? [jzalkin] by blueguydotcom Jun 06, 2008 (10:45 pm)
Replying to: jzalkin (Jun 06, 2008 1:08 pm) What year A4 cab? The 2005/2006 came with a 1.8T and a CVT in a car weighing an astounding 3600 lbs while only offering 170 hp/166 hp. The 3.0 with 220 hp/220 ft-lbs jumps to 4000 lbs.   Comparing the a4 cab to the IS250 is sorta misleading and not representative of comparing an IS250 to an A3. Replies to this message: yjbeach (Jun 12, 2008 5:15 am) shipo (Jun 12, 2008 5:20 am) sjaieve (Jun 13, 2008 6:38 am) and 1 more... alltorque (Jun 12, 2008 7:21 am) markcincinnati (Jun 14, 2008 7:41 am) circlew (Jun 14, 2008 8:10 am)
#11022 of 11073 Post moved by pat HOST Jun 07, 2008 (7:24 am)
Here's the link: sjaieve, "High Performance Luxury Sedans" #1030, 6 Jun 2008 9:17 pm. Replies to this message: sjaieve (Jun 07, 2008 4:38 pm)
#11023 of 11073 Re: Post moved [pat] by sjaieve Jun 07, 2008 (4:38 pm)
Replying to: pat (Jun 07, 2008 7:24 am) Thanks Pat
#11024 of 11073 Audi still has problems by yjbeach Jun 12, 2008 (5:15 am)
Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 06, 2008 10:45 pm) Does anyone in here have a friend with an Audi. They have serious electircal problems and people that say that it is fixed are wrong. I can't say how the rest of the USA is but in the MD, DC, Va area that problem still happens. My friend just purchased an A4 Avant and with less than 10K miles the AC has already been repaired 3 times. His Dashboard is lit up like an Xmas Tree.   My other friends with A4s' have had smiliar problems from years 03' until 07'.   Go with the IS. Replies to this message: shipo (Jun 12, 2008 5:20 am) sjaieve (Jun 13, 2008 6:38 am) shipo (Jun 13, 2008 7:08 am) alltorque (Jun 12, 2008 7:21 am) markcincinnati (Jun 14, 2008 7:41 am) circlew (Jun 14, 2008 8:10 am)
#11025 of 11073 Re: Audi still has problems [yjbeach] by shipo Jun 12, 2008 (5:20 am)
Replying to: yjbeach (Jun 12, 2008 5:15 am) One car, or even a couple of cars does not an indictment of an entire company make. I know lots of folks with Audis that haven't had a single electrical problem. Replies to this message: sjaieve (Jun 13, 2008 6:38 am) shipo (Jun 13, 2008 7:08 am)
#11026 of 11073 Re: Audi still has problems [yjbeach] by alltorque Jun 12, 2008 (7:21 am)
Replying to: yjbeach (Jun 12, 2008 5:15 am) Have three close friends with Audi's. An A8 3.0TDi, (with a gazillion toys fitted at the factory), an A3 2.0 TDi and an RS4 Avant. First two are 2 and 3 years old respectively. The A3 has 78k miles on it without any glitches, (he's trading it next Jan for an Audi TT TDi 'cos he heading for second childhood. The A8 has around 60k miles and has only suffered one glitch - two weeks ago the Audi satnav decided to stop working for 10 minutes whilst driving around the Paris Peripherique, (great place to lose satnav), but came back of its own accord. The RS4 is only 6 months old and no hiccups but same friend also has a Ferrari F355 which seems to go wrong on just about every trip...............to the extent that he's gonna sell it as he thinks the RS4 is a far better-built car, damn near as fast, far more useable and it doesn't attract the wrong sort of attention from the boy-racers or constabulary, (we have a couple of Subaru Imprezza WRX police cars locally which do send out a certain Clint Eatwood-esque message. "Ya feelin' lucky, punk?" or perhaps, "Make my day". Very entertaining though.   Other folk I know who've had Audi's swear by them - not at them. You've either got a or folks who don't know what they're doing with the diagnostics etc.   On the other hand I have a neighbour with a newish Mercedes C-class and he's either having an affaire with the Receptionist at the local Mercedes dealer or the car really is a dog. Just to balance that a near neighbour has one of the old, squarish, M-B S500's...........the one that just needs a big gun on the roof to complete the Main Battle Tank image, (it's even painted dark green metallic), and with 200k miles up it just keeps going but does have a drinking problem which is starting to hurt with gasoline here, (UK), at the equiv of $9+ per US Gallon.   As with all things electro-mechanical there are great examples and not-so-good ones. Isn't that part of the fun ?   Apologies for the long-winded response. Blame old age. Mine.
#11027 of 11073 Re: Audi still has problems [shipo] by sjaieve Jun 13, 2008 (6:38 am)
Replying to: shipo (Jun 12, 2008 5:20 am) If its coming down to a choice btwn IS250 & A4 2l turbo, I would also look at the TSX. You may lose AWD or RWD but its a pretty modern car which perfoms well and can be had at $32k fully loaded. I am not even into Acura's but the new TSX has quite a bit to offer Replies to this message: shipo (Jun 13, 2008 7:08 am)
#11028 of 11073 Re: Audi still has problems [sjaieve] by shipo Jun 13, 2008 (7:08 am)
Replying to: sjaieve (Jun 13, 2008 6:38 am) I've driven all three, and in spite of the fact that I value RWD over any other drivetrain, I'd rank the cars as follows:   1 - Audi A3 2.0T 6-Speed -- By far the most enjoyable the three to drive, and has the most rear seat space and the most utility as well given the mini-station wagon configuration.   2 - Acura TSX 6-Speed -- Fun to drive, lots of goodies (that I don't necessarily care about), and reasonable space in the back seat.   3 - Lexus IS250 RWD 6-Speed -- Extremely boring to drive with no "feel" of what's going on with the mechanicals or down on the road. This car also suffers from an anemic engine (at least until you wind it up even higher than the Acura's already high strung mill) and a back seat that is all but laughable. In every respect, this car is a very distant third of the three.   Best Regards, Shipo

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