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Replying to: berad (Jun 06, 2008 5:06 am) Personally, I detested the IS (even the 350) and find the A3 allows us to do everything - pick up passengers, go on a run to home depot for larger items, smooth, effortless power. The handling's not as sharp as I would like and there's road noise from the cruddy all-season tires. Gas mileage, when I drive it, tends to be in the mid to high 20s. Outside of the RWD layout, which Lexus numbed down to the point that the car understeers like a FWD, I can't personally see the value in the far more expensive, less powerful, less useful IS250.
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 06, 2008 6:15 am) Quality is a lot better in the Lexus. Forget the big items as the small stuff makes for greater frustration. I always had a few things in the Audi that needed to get addressed every service (broken small pieces, peeling of plastic coating, etc), but not with the Lexus. The Lexus is put together great. I know why they have loyalty because there are so few complaints on the small annoying things as the car ages. I guess that is why there are a lot of last gen Lexus driving around that people love. Service varies, but around South Florida, the Lexus experience is top shelf (better than Audi). I almost never have a list of little things to be addressed at the service intervals. The Audi feels sportier and has a roughness that reinforces that. The Lexus is serene and the quietness/plushness reinforces that. Both get old at times, but you have to decide your preference. I can't compare engines as my A4 Cab was heavy and did not perform any better than the IS250. I get great gas mileage and do not want any more HP in my car given fuel prices. With prices expected to hit $4.50 by end of July (premium - see record oil prices today and stock market plunge) I wouldn't mind giving up even more hp for even better gas mileage. The A3 is more versatile, but can't touch the Lexus for overall Luxury. Plus, the Lexus V6 is smooth and does have plenty of umph when needed. I loved the audi and await the A5 convertible, but unless you carry a lot of things that you need the A3 for space - I think the Lexus is the better choice. I was not inclined to keep the Audi out of warranty, but will not hesitate to keep the Lexus based on my personal experience.
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Replying to: jzalkin (Jun 06, 2008 1:08 pm) |
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Replying to: jzalkin (Jun 06, 2008 1:08 pm) Comparing the a4 cab to the IS250 is sorta misleading and not representative of comparing an IS250 to an A3. |
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Here's the link: sjaieve, "High Performance Luxury Sedans" #1030, 6 Jun 2008 9:17 pm.
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Replying to: pat (Jun 07, 2008 7:24 am) 
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 06, 2008 10:45 pm) My other friends with A4s' have had smiliar problems from years 03' until 07'. Go with the IS. |
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Replying to: yjbeach (Jun 12, 2008 5:15 am)
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Replying to: yjbeach (Jun 12, 2008 5:15 am) Other folk I know who've had Audi's swear by them - not at them. You've either got a  or folks who don't know what they're doing with the diagnostics etc. On the other hand I have a neighbour with a newish Mercedes C-class and he's either having an affaire with the Receptionist at the local Mercedes dealer or the car really is a dog. Just to balance that a near neighbour has one of the old, squarish, M-B S500's...........the one that just needs a big gun on the roof to complete the Main Battle Tank image, (it's even painted dark green metallic), and with 200k miles up it just keeps going but does have a drinking problem which is starting to hurt with gasoline here, (UK), at the equiv of $9+ per US Gallon.  As with all things electro-mechanical there are great examples and not-so-good ones. Isn't that part of the fun ?  Apologies for the long-winded response. Blame old age. Mine. |
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