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Replying to: alltorque (Apr 14, 2008 8:01 am) As I see it, the size of an inline six for any particular vehicle will be limited by how much space is given to the hood length. For the same hood length, a V-engine will take up less space and can therefore be larger than the inline six, for up to 12 cylinders.
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I liked the comment about how "an increase in boost pressure should bring the hp from 300 to 355". This is interesting, considering that many of the available reviews on the 335's performance have indicated that the book 300hp claim is very likely low-balling the actual output. What a perfect idea -- make a 335 tii version, claim that there is 55 more hp than the standard engine (when it's actually exactly the same), and charge $5000 more for the 'modification'.
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Replying to: sls002 (Apr 14, 2008 8:36 am) That adds weight as well. And worsens efficiency. So as a result, you can make a smaller I-6 than a V6 and get the same results. So often, you can fit the I-6 in the car as well as a V6. But GM and Ford never really designed I-6 engines - at least not recently. So they trudge along with their overly complex V engines. BMW and Mercedes started out with inline engines and still use a lot of them. As for the weight, 3400lbs is just about what my 87 Buick Park Ave weighed. That's hideously bloated for such a small car. It should be closer to 2600lbs.
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Replying to: fphjr01 (Apr 14, 2008 9:26 am) |
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Might as well make room for this car in this segment. I havent seen what else it has to offer but it will slaughter a lot of the pseudo ELLPS. 295 pound feet of torque, pretty impressive.
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Replying to: sjaieve (Apr 14, 2008 7:32 pm) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=124967 Yes, it's a FWD-bias Haldex system - ie garbage. 3800 lbs. And that legendary saab performance. Oh right, it's a saab...
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Apr 14, 2008 11:10 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 14, 2008 1:52 pm) The 87 Park Avenue was bigger than the current 3-series which is just a heavy. |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Apr 15, 2008 5:34 am) Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 15, 2008 12:15 pm)
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