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#10923 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [blueguydotcom] by louiswei Apr 04, 2008 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: blueguydotcom (Apr 04, 2008 12:20 pm) Actually bgdc, you are right, the A4 2.0T is definitely not underpowered as the TSX. However, the turbo lag is just so craptacular so it's almost like pick your poison... Replies to this message: blueguydotcom (Apr 04, 2008 2:38 pm) louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 4:26 pm) shipo (Apr 04, 2008 4:39 pm) and 1 more... shipo (Apr 04, 2008 4:07 pm)
#10924 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [louiswei] by blueguydotcom Apr 04, 2008 (2:38 pm)
Replying to: louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 12:26 pm) There's turbo lag on a 2.0T? Are you trying to launch the car at 1200 rpm? Replies to this message: louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 4:26 pm) shipo (Apr 04, 2008 4:39 pm) louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 4:42 pm)
#10925 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [louiswei] by shipo Apr 04, 2008 (4:07 pm)
Replying to: louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 12:26 pm) Turbo lag on a 2.0T? Uhhh, I've gotta tell you, I owned a couple of 1980s vintage turbo charged cars and know very well what turbo lag is, and what ever it is, the 2.0T doesn't have it. Errr, well, I suppose you could induce turbo lag by sidestepping the clutch at a whopping 900 rpms, but come on, how real world is that?   Best Regards, Shipo
#10926 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [blueguydotcom] by louiswei Apr 04, 2008 (4:26 pm)
Replying to: blueguydotcom (Apr 04, 2008 2:38 pm) There's turbo lag on a 2.0T?   Yup.   At least that's how I felt after having one for 2 weeks as a rental. The BMW 3.0TT is the one that eliminates about 99% of the turbo lag. Drive the 2 back to back then you'll understand. Replies to this message: shipo (Apr 04, 2008 4:39 pm) louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 4:42 pm)
#10927 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [louiswei] by shipo Apr 04, 2008 (4:39 pm)
Replying to: louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 4:26 pm) Sorry, I've got to beg to differ. I've driven an A3 2.0T on several occasions and not once have I been tempted to say, "Gee, that turbo lag is annoying."   Best Regards, Shipo Replies to this message: louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 4:42 pm)
#10928 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [shipo] by louiswei Apr 04, 2008 (4:42 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Apr 04, 2008 4:39 pm) Okay... I guess I am just more sensitive about the turbo lag than you are.   What do you want me to do? Say that I am wrong and apologize?
#10929 of 11073 Diesel Prices by nyccarguy Apr 04, 2008 (6:07 pm)
I am a big proponent of diesels, but short term the prices are sky high. My driver had to fuel up our company truck today. He said he was very low and had to get fuel before going downtown (Manhattan). I thought my Dad was going to have a heart attack when he saw we paid $4.99/gallon for diesel!
#10930 of 11073 Re: New Lifestyle, should I keep my 04 Toyota Tacoma? [louiswei] by cdnpinhead Apr 04, 2008 (6:30 pm)
Replying to: louiswei (Apr 04, 2008 12:07 pm) ". . .how about "everything in this class except the TSX" since it is a 4-banger."   Okay, I'm guilty. I don't care so much about acceleration, but I do like to go around corners. This is much of why I would have bought a 1.9 or 2.0 litre diesel anytime in the last several years, had one been available in an RWD or AWD car. Now that the 335d BMW is almost available (only with an automatic), I'm nonplussed. Buckets of power doesn't row my boat, especially if the car isn't available with a manual transmission.   It may be interesting to some people that luxury (or something resembling it) and handling doesn't have to come with neck-snapping acceleration to qualify as "entry-level luxury."   YMMV
#10931 of 11073 Speaking of the next TSX... by mz6greyghost Apr 04, 2008 (6:48 pm)
...Is it known that the diesel model will have a manual option? It'd be nice if it does...
#10932 of 11073 2009 335tii?? by circlew Apr 11, 2008 (4:56 am)
Here is a cu from Automobile mag regarding a face lft for the 3'er and a ti option.   The good stuff could start arriving as early as later this summer, with the face-lifted 2009 3-series. That car is under consideration for a tii version that, in addition to styling tweaks, would include M3 brakes, nineteen-inch wheels, a sport suspension, a dual-clutch transmission, and increased boost pressure that would bump the output of the 3.0-liter twin-turbo engine from 300 hp to about 355 hp.   Sounds good to me. What do you think?   Regards, OW Replies to this message: fedlawman (Apr 11, 2008 6:01 am) rascal99 (Apr 11, 2008 7:04 am)

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