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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 11:23 pm) Regarding that review, hmmm, 8th out of 10 in a contest that stressed acceleration over handling, not exactly a stellar showing. Had handling been more on equal footing, the LaCrosse, what with its nasty nose heavy bias and FWD would have done even worse. Regarding that crack you made yesterday about me researching what I post before I post, well, I think the content of the last many posts (forgetting yours of course) plus the two cited reviews (including the one you referenced) pretty much says it all. Simply put, the LaCrosse, regardless of how much motor is stuffed under the hood, does not belong in a discussion of "Sports Sedans". Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 11:23 pm) This came from the article you referenced above, therefore its not a sports sedan |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Mar 19, 2008 6:56 am) The usual. Oh well. We will continue to wait... Regards, OW
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A sedan with big engine is not necessary a sport sedan. Better handing and feedback from the road are more important than 0-60 time; otherwise, a 200+ minivan may be considered as "sport minvan" (don't get me start talking about those stupid minivan drivers who think they have a sport car). If that guy keeps talking about FWD sedan, maybe a Saab 9-3 is the best Sport Sedan for GM because it is more a sport sedan than the Buick (I know, it may not have the best handling but it is not bad at all).However, it is a Swedish (import again). I remembered the Viggen has 155mph top speed too and most 9-3 can go beyond 145mph (4 cyls turbo vs. Buick's...). A lot of cars have very high top speed but not all of them can be driven safety and stable at that speed. |
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Replying to: circlew (Mar 19, 2008 7:30 am) The DI was very nice with a panoramic roof; gorgeous on the inside and out. With the TC turned off I was able to get the back end out a couple feet. It was fast but not a "wow". The shifts were very smooth (that was a wow)...but when doing my power slides (never buy a demo car  ) the auto-manumatic took over a second to shift...so i bumped it off the rev-limiter before it decided to shift. The 6spd was nice as well...didn't have the rush in the higher rpms; but the throws and clutch take up was ok (not disappointing) . Although there was a high amount of vibration coming through the manual (similar to a G37 I drove a couple weeks ago). The CTS does need the upgraded interior...the base really does look like a "base" and shouldn't be sold with the name plate (assuming they want to keep it prestigious) |
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Replying to: circlew (Mar 19, 2008 7:30 am) Why not? And what about the STS and STS-V?
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 18, 2008 12:39 pm) 
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Replying to: alltorque (Mar 19, 2008 12:49 pm) By the way, it's "Bimmer" not "Beemer".
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 19, 2008 1:04 pm) [quote] Driving Impressions There's no going wrong with either of the engines available in the 2007 BMW 3 Series. The standard, normally aspirated engine is a little light on low-end torque, but it moves the car around smartly and provides slightly better mileage. The new twin-turbo engine provides the kind of acceleration formerly associated with the high-performance M3, launching the 335i coupe and sedan to 60 mph in close to 5 seconds flat. No matter which model you choose, the 3 Series' world-class suspension, steering and brakes will provide hours of entertainment on twisty two-lane highways. Beyond simply feeling rock-solid when hustled around turns, this car communicates with the driver in a manner that inspires confidence no matter what kind of driving you're doing. At the same time, the 3 Series is an ideal long-distance cruiser, delivering both a comfortably controlled ride and a quiet cabin environment.[unquote] That implies it could very well "run away" from an IS350 on the tracks. Link to the 335 review: http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3series/2007/review.html Link to the IS350 review: http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/is350/2008/review.html |
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 19, 2008 2:45 pm) Except that "alltorque" was talking about the 335d, not the 335i. Big difference. "because an Edmunds review says it IS comparable to an M3" As has been pointed out, there's more to a sporting car than just how quickly it accelerates in a straight line. As has been discussed here, and elsewhere, the 335i doesn't hold a candle to any M3 of recent vintage (E46, E92). One thing positive I will say about the 335d - even it's quicker and better handling than a Buick... 
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