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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 6:30 am) That, my friend, really doesn't help your case at all... Anyway, the Lexus ISX50 is the Buick in this group according to some people so your beloved LaX is out of luck (and spot) what-so-ever. 
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 18, 2008 12:28 pm) Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: louiswei (Mar 18, 2008 12:28 pm) 
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Replying to: adamr001 (Mar 18, 2008 12:45 pm) And the LaCrosse Super, just like the the GNX, is a muscle car. Great in a straight line, but that's it. A Sports Sedan/Coupe is: RWD or AWD. Manual available. As close to 3000lbs as possible. An emphasis on handling over straight line performance and HP. Buick is: FWD. Automatic only. Nearly 4000lbs. Insanely powerful and overbuilt. It's a muscle car. Is it any surprise considering what company made it? GM groks muscle cars, after all. Compare it to a Impreza, RX-8, or GLI. (yes, these aren't luxury, though they are the essence of sporty). Dropping in leather and a bigger engine - that's Mercedes trick. And it's a complete dead-end as they've found with their E Class(which is a Taxi in Europe. Nobody in Germany buys one for personal use)
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Replying to: plekto (Mar 18, 2008 2:31 pm) |
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Replying to: circlew (Mar 18, 2008 6:44 am) http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_- cars/the_quickest_sedans_of_2008_30_000_to_40_000_feature+page-4.html |
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 11:23 pm) It’s no GNX, and 20 years later, it is almost a second slower to 60 mph. ...if not for the omnipresent torque steer, it might drive better than many Lexuses, The question is... which ones? I'll guess they did NOT mean the IS. The LaCrosse Super wasn’t designed to be a sports sedan, with all the comparisons that invites, and is instead billed as a “luxury touring sedan.” Hence the reason why it doesn't belong in this category. The 300 horsepower and the 323 pound-feet of torque will whisk upsold octogenarians to 60 mph in 5.7 seconds, if the torque steer at launch doesn’t snap their calcium-depleted wrists. High praise indeed... |
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 11:23 pm) Regarding that review, hmmm, 8th out of 10 in a contest that stressed acceleration over handling, not exactly a stellar showing. Had handling been more on equal footing, the LaCrosse, what with its nasty nose heavy bias and FWD would have done even worse. Regarding that crack you made yesterday about me researching what I post before I post, well, I think the content of the last many posts (forgetting yours of course) plus the two cited reviews (including the one you referenced) pretty much says it all. Simply put, the LaCrosse, regardless of how much motor is stuffed under the hood, does not belong in a discussion of "Sports Sedans". Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 11:23 pm) This came from the article you referenced above, therefore its not a sports sedan |
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Replying to: sjaieve (Mar 19, 2008 6:56 am) The usual. Oh well. We will continue to wait... Regards, OW
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