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Re: Price Reduction [jeffmo2334] by tayl0rd
Mar 17, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: jeffmo2334 (Mar 14, 2008 7:34 am)

... (instead of my previous car, a 1993 Geo Prizm)
 
Nothing wrong with a '93 Prizm. I had a '92 back in '93. Wanted a '93, but was duped by the salesman. (Oh, the joys of youth and inexperience!) Anyway, Motor Trend wrote of the '93 Prizm that it was Lexus-like in it's quietness. I drove one and agreed whole-heartedly. How has yours held up? Is it still quite and smooth?
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Re: Price Reduction [tayl0rd] by jeffmo2334
Mar 17, 2008 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Mar 17, 2008 9:53 am)

It has been a great car for me -- the engine is still very smooth, and the transmission is also OK. In 14 years, I have only had one repair issue (electrical). It has been a GREAT car, and also gets very good gas mileage (28mpg in mixed driving).
 
It is not quiet -- my main complaint about this car has been the plastic inside is very cheap, so all of the door handles are cracked or broken, several knobs have broken, etc. When it runs, it has lots of rattles, and is noisy with all of the vibrating plastic. Also, 3 of the 4 rims are slightly bent, so that also makes the ride quite rough.
 
It only has 116k miles, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the engine/transmission to last another 60k or 70k miles at least. I will sell it to someone fully confident that it will be a good car for them. Do you want to buy it? Just kidding.
 
Jeff
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [shipo] by jpstax1
Mar 17, 2008 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 16, 2008 9:34 pm)

The LaX Super IS categorized as a "luxury performance sedan". And it IS head and shoulders above any other 2008 Buick LaX. However, a Caddy, Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes it is not. But, it's a great performance sedan at a bargain price, with a lot of the same equipment and amenities found in higher priced sedans:
 
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/buick/lacrosse/100900863/researchlanding.html
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [jpstax1] by shipo
Mar 17, 2008 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 17, 2008 8:28 pm)

Dude, put that pig on a track and its lap times will be absolutely laughable compared to each of the cars that actually are in this class. It seems that you think that by taking a large FWD sled and then dropping in a big motor and slapping on some sticky rubber, it will suddenly be transformed into a "Sports Sedan". Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the LaCrosse doesn't even come close to meeting the criteria as a Sports Sedan.
 
If you don't believe me that the LaCrosse doesn't measure up, that's fine, consult the car comparison web site of your choice and look at the cars the "experts" think the Buick competes with. My bet is that you'll see a list that looks something like the following:
 
 - Chevy Impala
 - Chrysler 300
 - Dodge Charger
 - Ford Tarus
 - Honda Accord
 - Hyundai Sonata
 - Kia Optima
 - Mazda Mazda6
 - Mercury Sable
 - Mitsubishi Galant
 - Nissan Altima
 - Saturn Aura
 - Subaru Legacy
 - Toyota Camry
 
Not exactly a thrilling list of car that one would want to go "sporting" with now is it.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [shipo] by circlew
Mar 18, 2008 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 17, 2008 8:52 pm)

Exactly right! At least I am getting some enjoyment from the US cars now that I gave up on them.
 
Take a modified LaCross and carry some speed, let's say 40 mph, into a switch back turn and you will be out of your misery once and for all!
 

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [shipo] by jpstax1
Mar 18, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 17, 2008 8:52 pm)

Dude. Like some of the other so-called "experts" that post in this forum, you don't know what you're talking about. The Super's 0-60 time is 5.7 seconds, and its top speed is 155mph, making it the fastest Buick ever. And according to professional test drivers, it does pretty well in slalom too, with its sport-tuned suspension (with tuned Bilstein struts) and more precise steering (using Delphi's premium system).
 
BTW, where are the Caddy CTS, Impala SS, and Pontiac G8 GT on your list?
 
Link: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/buick/lacrosse/100900863/compare.html
 
A word to the wise, next time check your facts before running your mouth.
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [jpstax1] by shipo
Mar 18, 2008 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 6:30 am)

Yeesh, some people don't get it.
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [jpstax1] by circlew
Mar 18, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 18, 2008 6:30 am)

FWD and into the wall on the turns. Here's a good review from someone who drove one. Another re-badge to a dying brand. How utterly boring.
 
Does anyone remember the Buick Grand National???
 
link title
 
Regards,
OW
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Front Wheel Drive by sls002
Mar 18, 2008 (7:03 am)
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Cadillac spent the ninties trying to make the STS into a serious sports sedan contenter. They failed. Cadillac's solution was the RWD sigma platform CTS, STS models which are a much better set of cars.
 
The Lacrosse, like the Impala and Grand Prix, have a bit too much engine for the platform, and while faster in a straight line, still are not well balanced for twisty mountain highways. They are probably better in snow though.
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Re: Don't buy foreign cars! [jpstax1] by sjaieve
Mar 18, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: jpstax1 (Mar 17, 2008 8:28 pm)

If I am offered this Buick for $5,000 (five thousand), fully loaded and brand new, I would pass on it.

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