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#10797 of 11073 Re: Diesels Rock [nyccarguy] by circlew Mar 14, 2008 (5:23 pm)
Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 14, 2008 3:37 pm) I don't mind the AT but the better half would destroy it. The AT is good for me anyway.   I would consider the d along with the 3'er on my ext leas in December. You guys are steering me but I wonder the cost trade-off if the d runs in the low $50'sK verse ~ $47K I could get a NA version. The one I drove was a rush compared to the 255 hp 330.   The diesel twist is very tempting also but I need to get a better handle on the drive difference on the power curve vs. each variant. Once the fuel savings is measured vs. price and driving pleasure I can make a move after testing each one.   My next monkey wrench is the 1 series thrown into the mix! I am reeling but the availability of the d might make my decision easier and the one will be well documented by year end.   Regards, OW
#10798 of 11073 Re: Will Choices Change ? [circlew] by blueguydotcom Mar 14, 2008 (9:18 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Mar 14, 2008 5:16 pm) When I consider a 3 again it'll mean a kid is on the way I have to have a car bigger than the cooper. For the sake of having a vehicle that can fit the family, I'd suck it up. The far better mileage of the diesel really raises my eyebrow. I love the idea of 30 mpg and 16 gallons...stopping for gas every 1.5-2 weeks sound great! Replies to this message: circlew (Mar 15, 2008 7:32 am)
#10799 of 11073 Re: Diesels Rock [nyccarguy] by chirocat Mar 14, 2008 (9:37 pm)
Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 14, 2008 3:37 pm) Count me in as well. I remember seeing a magazine article on a Tuner 330d and 530d a few years ago, and it was damn impressive. Impressive enough is this CD article, it says volumes. Near gas performance with up to 40 mpg? Cool!   check this out;   http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files- _tested_by_c_d/2006_bmw_330d_road_test   When I was looking for car last year I was a total manual trans biggot and actually sneered audibly at any "performance" sedan on the lot that had an auto.   I only considered 2 cars that were not manuals; a R32 with DSG, can't call it an automatic if it doesn't have a torque converter though, and a pre-owned C55. The badass V-8 in that Q-ship almost made up for the lack of a clutch.   Hopefully America will pull it's collective heads out and realize diesels are not what we saw in the crude 80's gas conversion crap? IMHO all trucks 3/4 ton and over plus large SUV's should all be diesel. If we had more diesels, maybe the price of the damn gas would come down because they would have to refine more and can't artificially keep the price up with that old "supply" rhetoric.
#10800 of 11073 Re: Will Choices Change ? [blueguydotcom] by circlew Mar 15, 2008 (7:32 am)
Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 14, 2008 9:18 pm) I knew you had at least some satisfaction form the E90 bloated version of what you would consider the ultimate sports sedan. More than my eyebrows raised with the torque numbers. I gotta try that equation for myself.   My problem with test drives is the limited feel you get from driving a few miles. The 335i I drove for 1 day ~ 40 miles was much more of a drive to understand the car. It's an easy sell for me because the extra weight doesn't bother me as I am accustomed to US fare, sloppier handling and control. Stepping into the '06 3'er did it for me.   Now if I can get 30 MPG, it just depends on the cost trade off of a lease verse the efficiency gain.   Regards, Ow
#10805 of 11073 First-time poster looking for advice by pcampos Mar 16, 2008 (8:14 pm)
I don't have much experience buying cars (I bought a new Corolla in 1987, drove it for eight years, then bought an Accord which I've driven ever since). I've decided I want to get something nice. Situation: I drive about 8000-10,000 miles a year. For the next three years I don't want to spend more than around $300 a month on car payments. After that, I'm going to be in a far more flexible financial situation and will be able to afford a very expensive car if I want to go that way. So I'm considering the following options: leasing something for around $300 a month for 36 months, or buying something used but fairly nice in the the 12K-15K range, and then trading up three years from now. So far I've looked at the Acura TSX and the Audi 3 to lease, plus a five-year-old SAAB 9 to buy. Thanks in advance for any feedback! Replies to this message: blueguydotcom (Mar 16, 2008 8:15 pm) cdnpinhead (Mar 17, 2008 4:58 am)
#10806 of 11073 Re: First-time poster looking for advice [pcampos] by blueguydotcom Mar 16, 2008 (8:15 pm)
Replying to: pcampos (Mar 16, 2008 8:14 pm) Buy used. A used TSX will run well, serve you nicely and in the end you'll have something, unlike a lease.

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