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Price Reduction by irvine555
Mar 07, 2008 (10:24 am)
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I'm looking to buy a TL at the end of the year. I know by then the '09s will be out. How much of a price drop do yall think they will have on the 08 models (especially since they'll be 3rd generation unlike the 09's). Also do yall think with the new options on the '09 models that are being discussed on this forum (AWD and more horsepower) it's worth it to get an '09 or just get the '08.
 
P.S.---I live in Louisiana so front wheel drive is not a problem (we don't see snow but every 10 years, lol). Also do yall think its worth it to get the S-type since its just a few thousand more than the basic one with the Nav. system.
 
Thanks so much
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Re: Price Reduction [irvine555] by riorebel
Mar 07, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: irvine555 (Mar 07, 2008 10:24 am)

It will be hard for anyone to answer that question for you. I had no intention of getting the S-type, but after driving the Infiniti G35, the base TL did not have enough power for me. I was willing to pay for the extra horsepower.
 
If you don't care as much about the difference in power, I'd save the money and buy the base model. The lip spoiler is not that attractive, IMO, and the other differences are not significant.
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Re: Price Reduction [riorebel] by irvine555
Mar 11, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: riorebel (Mar 07, 2008 2:50 pm)

Riorebel, why did you choose the TL over the G35?
 
Also why did anyone else on this board choose the TL over the G35 or the Lexus IS 250?
 
Besides the look what caught your eye and/or made the decision for you?
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Re: Price Reduction [irvine555] by scottm123
Mar 11, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: irvine555 (Mar 11, 2008 10:32 am)

Can I chime in?
My short list was the IS250, the Acura TL and the G35x.
I drove the IS250 and although fit and finish was outstanding, the size was a deal breaker for me, since I had a 4 yr old daughter who had to be comfy in the back. The lack of power had me worried about the novelty wearing off as well.
That brought me to the TL and the G35x.
I had to really weigh the pros and cons to come to a decision. Honestly, both are awesome cars and you can't go wrong with either one.
For me, the G just gave me a feeling that the TL could not. The dealer, where I bought my 06 MDX, gave me a TL loaner on 7 separate days... one being a Type-S as well.
As much as I enjoyed them (especially the MPG), I got bored with them.
 
The G (for me) is WAY more fun to drive. It has more power and I felt more in control of the G as well. It offers more feedback (in a good way)
I now have AWD when I need it (It's fantastic in the snow!) and RWD performance at any other time.
Also, I found that my right knee hits the center console in the TL and my left arm, which I like to rest on the window edge, was uncomfortable. The window edge was too high and the arm rest was too low.
The "Studio on Wheels" stereo in the G is more enjoyable and I also feel that the fit/finish/ level of luxury in the G is higher than that of the TL. I love the look of the real rosewood trim in my car and how it contrasts with the black interior.
I also have absolutely no rattles after 14,000 miles and one year of driving.
 
Again, this is all personal preference.
I liked both cars, but the G just did it better for me.
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Re: Price Reduction [scottm123] by irvine555
Mar 11, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Mar 11, 2008 11:50 am)

Thank you scottm123, that's exactly what I was looking for. The 3 cars you named are the exact 3 I'm looking at right now. I currently do not have any children, but I do hope to start a family in a few years, so that does factor in.
 
I think like you said, I won't know what car is right for me until I drive them.
 
I graduated from LSU (Geaux Tigers) last year and got a pretty good job. I've been driving a Toyota Corolla for 7 years now, so any car I choose should be a significant upgrade.
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Both are great by riorebel
Mar 11, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: irvine555 (Mar 11, 2008 12:21 pm)

Honestly, there are some good reasons you might choose the TL over the G35, but my main reason was my wife. She has a strange dislike of most Japanese cars, particularly Nissan (I think it goes back to one bad experience with a Sentra we had about 10 years ago.) When I took her with me to drive the G35, she hated it - a biased opinion, I'm sure. But I have to admit that it is a bit smaller than the TL, and I also like the slightly better mileage and the look of the TL better, as well.
 
By the way, I am a HUGE Bama fan and I was pulling hard for you. Way to geaux, Tigers! (SEC fans learn to stick together here in Big Ten country!)
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Re: Price Reduction [irvine555] by laurasdada
Mar 11, 2008 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: irvine555 (Mar 11, 2008 10:32 am)

Back in '05, my final two were the TL and the G35x. I chose the TL because the TL offered (imo, of course):
 
Smoother, quieter ride. G had a bit too much road/wind noise. And while the engine growl is kinda lovely, I just heard it too much.
Better styling, both exterior and interior. Higher quality interior bits and pieces.
Better mpg (child of "gas crisis" '70s...)
I didn't really want the added weight/complexity of AWD. I'm a lifelong New Englander and skier, FWD has just done me fine (until the TL! Another story, but get snow tires...)
 
Of course, this was Gen 1 G35. Fun to drive, powerful and I'm sure had I chosen it I'd be all smiles. But, my priorities ruled in the TLs favor. And I still dig it!
 
As Gen 2 G is an improvement, just test drive the heck out of each of 'em. No wrong decision will be made. Also, note that a new gen TL is just down the road...
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Re: Both are great [riorebel] by irvine555
Mar 12, 2008 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: riorebel (Mar 11, 2008 3:08 pm)

Thanks for the info riorebel and laurasdada. When the time comes for me to choose (end of the year), I'll probably test drive each one once or twice and then sit down and write my own positives and negatives and then choose. In the end, it doesn't seem like I can go wrong with any choice I make though.
 
Question: How much of a diff. is there between the TL compared to the TL-S with regard to how smooth the car rides, handles, etc. Also how does the G-35x compare to its other models the G-35 Journey, etc.
 
My girlfriend is the same as your wife riorebel, she hates all American cars (except the Corvette) and she hates Toyotas. I think the hate for Toyotas stems from her having a bad experience with a Corolla (her first car) like 10 years ago (I think it was a '92). She doesn't even want me to look at Lexus. On a side note, my parents have been buying Toyotas for the past 10 years and love them. My mom drives a '97 Avalon (bought brand new in '97), and has only put 32,000 on it in the last 10-11 years (she just pretty much goes to the store and goes home).
 
riorebel, thanks for the SEC support. Honestly I cheer for every team in the SEC except AUBURN. As much as BAMA fans hate AUBURN, I would have to say LSU fans are right behind yall on that hate. Yall look to have a promising year (thanks to good recruiting), so good luck this year, except in Tiger Stadium.
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Re: Price Reduction [laurasdada] by upstatedoc
Mar 12, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Mar 11, 2008 7:07 pm)

LD,
I could have written that post. Back in '05 I felt the TL was just a little more refined with the G being more rough around the edges. I think now though that the G has really improved in the area of refinement and has probably surpassed the current TL. Can't wait to see the '09.
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Re: Both are great [irvine555] by scottm123
Mar 12, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: irvine555 (Mar 12, 2008 5:18 am)

Also keep in mind that your question will be answered with more people leaning toward the TL, being that you are asking within the TL thread.
I like the TL enough that I still pop in here from time to time, but me and my love for the G can't stand a chance against all these TL lovers.
 
Ask the same question in the G forum and you'll get the exact opposite response.
 
I still like these guys in the TL forum... even with their less than perfect choice in vehicle.

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