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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 16, 2007 2:30 pm) I tried my best to compare apples to apples in configuration. Yes the 335i is 38% more than the 1987 325i, but then the current top of the line Accord EX-L V6 at $30,260 is 96% more than the top of the line 1987 Accord LX-i 4 door at $15,434. And, if you want to get really off track, the current 335i compares very favorably performance and size wise to a 1988 M5 that ran $49,050, 26% MORE than the current 335i. To answer your question, the 1987 325 (no "e" or "i") had a base price of $24,655. So the current 328i has a base price 33.0% higher than the bottom of the line 3 series in 1987. But again, comparing bottom of the line Accords, the current LX 4 cylinder manual at $20,360 is 87.2% more than the 1987 DX at $10,874. Whether or not some consider the current 3 series or upcoming 1 series too big, too heavy, not as much fun as the little 3 series or 1600/2000's of old is a completely different matter. But when you look just at the price, it's hard not to conclude that there are more people that can afford a 3 series today that could have only dreamed of one in 1987. BMW's sales figures and increases in market share seem to reflect this. And there may be at least a few people who can't afford an Accord today, that could have in 1987. They are now buying Hyundai's and the like. P.S. A 1994 850 CSi? $101,500. 
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 16, 2007 2:05 pm) I don't see your logic here Blueguy (lack of doors notwithstanding). A 2009 128i loaded with Premium and Sport Packages will have an MSRP of about $34,000. It will be the performance equal of your old ZHP in every way, yet cost $10,000 less. In fact, even a well equipped 135i will come in several thousand under $44,000 - and even though it weighs a whopping 50 lbs more than the E46 330i, it's got performance that puts your dearly departed to utter shame. 1-series pricing, as I've been predicting, will make a CPO E46 of recent vintage a complete rip-off. |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 16, 2007 8:57 pm) I don't care if an e90 will stomp an e46 on a track...the car's just not fun.
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 16, 2007 10:19 pm) My point is simply that from a performance/value standpoint, the 1-series absolutely demolishes the E46.
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Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 16, 2007 10:43 pm) Will ignore the doors - which I think is integral to the discussion at hand as the utility of the car is diminished 1000% percent with only two doors. I have no driven the 1, so I can't comment on how it performs vis-a-vis an e46. If it's anything like the e90, then no it will do the exact opposite of demolish. On the remote chance it's not like the e90, then sure it could be more fun to drive than an e46. I highly doubt that given BMW's track record the past few years.
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 17, 2007 9:11 am) Yes, on this forum, 4-doors is a much more significant discriminator. |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 16, 2007 8:57 pm)
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Replying to: pj42nato (Nov 18, 2007 9:29 am) 1 series pricing from Fedlawman: fedlawman, "BMW 1-Series" #993, 16 Nov 2007 7:29 pm |
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Nov 20, 2007 7:04 am) Regards, OW
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