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#16980 of 16989 I've had my 2014 S4
Nov 28, 2013 (10:50 am)
Working on 300 miles thus far. Taking it easy so far, but the car is simply in one word to summarize "impeccable."
Nov 29, 2013 (8:57 am)
Andres3 -- wait until you get over 1,000 miles on the OD; at that mileage the power improves and the fuel consumption drops. I did notice a slight decrease in the oil level (on the MMI screen), but the indicator still says "OK."
If this is your first Audi, you will be getting 2 new ones in the future. Your "second" new Audi will come to your garage (at no extra charge) at 5,000 miles (or so) and then you will find yet another new Audi at 10,000 miles. Now, I say this never having had an Audi supercharged engine, but every other Audi I've ever had (4, 5, 6 or 8 cylinder, naturally aspirated or forced induction) repeated the "rebirth" at the noted mileage. Never had the same experience with the various Acura, Infiniti or BMW's we have had over the years.
WE almost always do this: "I wish" I had configured the sport differential on my order; "I wish" 19" wheels with A/S UHP tires were offered as an option; "I wish" the tracking headlights were offered on the P+ S4 (like are on my wife's new Prestige SQ5); and I wish the A/S tires were not simply Grand Touring models, but UHP's like we put on the SQ5 (Continental DSW's). But, even without my wish list, this is (these two cars -- my S4 and her SQ5 are) the best Audis ever, AND my (and my wife's) most favorite cars -- ever.
Every time I push the start button, put the car in dynamic mode (which actually the car "remembers" from the first time) and take off, I am impressed by the seemingly intuitive transmission and the sense of an almost unlimited well of horsepower and torque. Now that I have 2,000 miles on mine, I am unafraid to floor the accelerator, and find it to be an absolute rush every time I do.
And, don't you just love the little fart sound the thing makes when it shifts?
Lets us know YOUR driving impressions as you: Drive It Like You Live.
Dec 04, 2013 (8:41 am)
So I haven't been traveling so much for work, out of state (that is), but have been working in Tucson. On my trips down and back, I have been averaging 36 MPG, this is doing anywhere between 55-80. The traffic between these cities have gotten really back over the years. Before you could set the cruise at 80 and just go.
So for thanksgiving, I went over to San Diego to see my dad, I-10 west, through Palm Spring, Riverside, and down the I-15 to San Diego. Weather was clear, temps in the mid to high 60s for most of the trip, no A/C needed. Average speed was 75, I averaged 38.5 MPG (car trip computer), however, when I filled up the car took 12 gallons at 460 miles (38.3 mpg), on the way home, temps in the upper 70's to low 80's A/C average speed 80, 37.5 mpg (cars trip computer), 465 miles used 12.5 gallons which is 37.2 mpg. So the car's trip computer is fairly accurate in the MPG.
So a few thoughts on this car, I have 3800 miles on it (much higher then I thought I would have) but this is the nature of my work.
1) The start/stop feature, it is unnerving when you first get in the car and it stops. You get the WTF just happened. Now having the car for 2 months, it is second nature, doesn't bother me at all.
2) Power, the car is rated at "only" 180 hp, but in my daily driving and highway cruising, the power band and torque are set that one would be hard pressed to tell, my last rental was a 2014 Sonata, and while the standard engine make about 200hp, the 320i "felt faster" then the Sonata's. BTW, I just ordered the Stage 1 tuning kit for the 320, 30hp gain and 40 lbs of torque gain for $375. stage 2 is in beta test but from the prelim testing, on a 320i stage two add's another 20 hp and 30 lbs of torque for another $175. MPG is not to be affected at all with these upgrades under normal driving (well see about that.)
3) Handling and ride of the new F30 I read people's comments about the steering feel of the new F30, granted it does have the weighted feel of the E90 or the current 1 series and X1, but in daily driving one is really hard pressed to know the lack of feedback. I'm sure on the track it is a completely different story. The ride of the non-sport F30 is typical German, well controlled without it being too harsh, now, my E90 with the M sport pack and run flat tires wasn't so bad if the road was smooth, but as we all know, not many cities have ultra smooth road, and that combo get's tiresome after a while. Do I wish for better supportive seats, YES, but over all, no real complaints. I was not tired at all on my trip to San Diego, my first stop is always just north palm spring which takes about 4 hours to get, no sore butt or fatigue at all.
Has BMW last some of the edge that the 3 series had, yes, BMW was always more of a "sport" sedan, then a "luxury" sedan but the people with the money (buyers) want more luxury which is fine, but I think BMW can make both sides happy without really compromising too much, I just hope they find the happy medium.
Some grips about what has become of the 3 series, when building a new 3 series, the only two interior color one can get with the sport pack is black or red. If you want other colors you have to get the M sport pack, Luxury model or standard. I wish the enhanced bluetooth and alarm was standard.
With that being said, I like the 320i, it does want I want it to do, the price was reasonable and the resale value of the 320i seems to high on it, but time will tell.
#16983 of 16989 Re: First Trip [flightnurse]
Dec 06, 2013 (6:17 am)
Nice write up FN. Sounds like a very good car.
I know when I had mine, I thought the power was way under rated (at least from what BMW claimed). Sounds like they did the same with the 320i. I had the performance pack installed on mine for an extra 20 HP. Well worth the money.
Maybe the 320i is the spiritual successor to the 2002ti.
#16984 of 16989 Re: First Trip [graphicguy]
Dec 06, 2013 (7:58 am)
Graphic, I think one of the factors I think people are missing is the fun factor of a car. I don't remember which magazine I was reading but one of them did a write up on the original 320 and the current 320.
It has been well known that the HP that the BMW's rates their cars are underrated.
#16986 of 16989 Re: New BMW M3 and M4 [flightnurse]
Dec 13, 2013 (8:04 am)
Thanks FN. Interesting that BMW went with the double turbo 3.0 instead of the usual V8s they've used in the past.
Specs look pretty wicked. I like it.
Any idea on pricing? I was thinking if things keep going with the S4 the way they've been goind, I might be interested in the 235i M. But, this looks quite interesting, too.
#16987 of 16989 Re: New BMW M3 and M4 [graphicguy]
Dec 13, 2013 (9:43 am)
So far no pricing, but of course look for it to cost more then the out going model..
Here is the order sheet for the M cars
I also agree with you that the 2 series M looks very nice, if the price could be kept under 50K I think BMW would have a major hit on their hands.
Major reason for the Twin Turbo 6
better MPG, BMW wont meet the CAFE that is set by our government, also driveability, the out going V8, thought nice, was really a dog in normal driving, from the reports of this new engine, one can drive it like a normal BMW in town and it wont have problems, the greater torque of the 6 will also allow BMW to get better MPG...
#16988 of 16989 Re: New BMW M3 and M4 [flightnurse]
Dec 13, 2013 (1:35 pm)
Thanks FN....Do you know when the 235 M is supposed to hit the streets?
I think the $55K is the top end of my price threshhold. That means, the M3 is probably not going to be on my list. Matter of fact, I'd love to come in well under $50K. I'd stretch it if I was really bowled over by a car, but I'm fairly familiar with what's out there in those price ranges and feel confident I'm not going to get bowled over.
#16989 of 16989 Re: New BMW M3 and M4 [graphicguy]
Dec 13, 2013 (2:02 pm)
'Do you know when the 235 M is supposed to hit the streets? '
Not FN, but everything I have seen says March.
According to the Ordering & Pricing guides, my selection
of options would result in MSRP = $47,425.
Former BMW driver & very interested in the M235i.....