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393 messages, Last post on Nov 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM
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I just purchased a 2009 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT, Crew Cab, 2WD. My truck has the TRX package, and the Ram Boxes, with basic power equipment and premium cloth inside. The MSRP on the vehicle was $37,605. Thanks to the great research available on Edmunds (and a few other places), I was able to get this truck for $27,550 - about $75 below the TMV price. AND - they threw in a couple of accessories that weren't already on the truck - running boards and a tonneau cover. The price does reflect the $6000 rebates currently being offered. Clearly, they're still making money on this sale, though they did try and tell me that my specific vehicle had no holdback as it was transferred from another dealer. I got this deal at Hendrick Dodge in Cary, NC (suburb of Raleigh). This was my first time using Edmunds and being a firm, but respectful negotiator. I think it paid off very well. The price I got was about $4000 below what they first quoted me, and then about $900 below their second offer. In case there's any other newbie negotiators reading this, the main thing besides knowing your prices, is to keep the negotiations for the cost of the car, separate from the cost of your trade, and also separate from the cost of the money. Good luck! |
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I recently went into negotiations to get a Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie and talked with the two dealerships that had the versions I wanted. I ultimately ended up getting an Acura MDX as a result of these negotations. The first dealer i went to, Christopher Dodge, was really first class. The only thing I was disappointed with was that their two nicest Laramie's were demo's that their managers were driving. Times are tough in the auto industry and I didn't think it made a whole lot of sense for their managers to be driving these cars when they could have been using much less expensive demos. I would rate my overall experience here a B. The only reason I didn't think it was great was because my sales associate was not well educated on the Ram 1500 Laramie and the dealership didn't seem to want me to work with anyone other than the first guy I met. The manager, who I believe was Jeff Baker, was incredibly professional and while we never came to any agreement on a vehicle or price, I felt that the overall dealership experience was first class. Now, dealership #2 was Valley Dodge in Boulder. This was a pretty laughable experience. My buddy and I stopped in on a Friday night to check out a Laramie I saw they had online. The dealership was much smaller than anything I had been to previously and had the feel of some rundown used car lot. the appearance of the dealership had little bearing on my overall opinion of it though. I was met by a man named Chuck who identified himself as the manager and set me up with a sales rep. The sales rep was a really nice guy, but just wanted to tell me what a mistake it would be to get any other vehicle than this truck. He knew a lot about the utility value of the truck but didn't have the answers i was asking about the bells and whistles you get when you are buying a laramie, mainly the multimedia console. After my test drive, I was immediately pressured to come in and get a deal done right there. They did an appraisal of my car and drove it around and told me they considered it worth $7500 at trade in. They also told me they wouldn't let the truck go below invoice, but would expect between $500-$1000 above invoice. I said I would get back to them and I did. I called back the very next day and unfortunately Chuck was not available. This is where my experience went from a B to an F. I began talking with the other manager, Tyler Grubich. This kid graduated college in 2004 and in my opinion, is not qualified to be the manager of anything. He told me that they likely couldn't honor the trade in quote the other night and that the only price they would sell the truck for was the posted price they had on craigslist, not a dollar less. I asked him about what the other manager had told me and he said I should just come in so he could see my vehicle. I agreed to come in and after checking out my vehicle, was told they would only credit it at $6300. They then told me they could get me out the door at $33,000 before tax tag and title. This was essentially the first real offer they made to me. I came back to them with $32,500 and he went back to the back room and sent out his finance manager. While they were gone, i noticed the dealer fee of approximately $490. When this finance manager, who was a total character and funny in a really bad way, came out to talk to me, I explained to him that I would not pay more than $32,100+dealer fee+tax. He immediately pressured me into signing that number, and as an attorney, I'm sitting there laughing to myself wondering why this guy cares if I sign my name next to a #. It just left a bad impression overall in my mouth. He should have just gone back and asked if he could get it done. He came back and said that it couldn't be done and I ended up just getting up and leaing. I left so fast I left my registration on the sales rep desk, and like I said, this was a nice guy and he ran out to give it to me. The next day I had to decide on the MDX or their truck and I wrote an e-mail to Tyler, the manager through nepotism (his dad owns the dealership). I said, I will come in and buy the car for $33,000+tax if the $33,000 includes dealer fee and to not call me back unless this # works for you and that he had until 6pm to do so. For whatever reason, he read this and thought it meant, call me back and try to negotiate some more and let me know that I wouldn't get his truck for less than $33,000+dealer fee+tax. I hung up immediately and got ready to off to Acura. I called them back one more time at 6pm to give them one final chance at $33,200+tax, they refused. This offer was $300 less than their initial offer so clearly Tyler has no idea how to negotiate. I ended up buying my MDX that night and couldn't be happier with the purchase. The very next day, they have a sales rep call me up and ask me if I am still interested. Were they trying to imply that I was lying to them about buying the MDX that night? It was incredibly offensive. I should also mention that this entire week, they have sold one car according to their website inventory. ONE CAR and they tried to strong arm me over $300 and pressure me with numerous old school tactics. It's really laughable and a carnival over there. I felt really bad for the sales rep who called me because he sounded really disappointed and the managerial staff really screwed him out of a sale. I hope Greg Grubich gets around to reading this and does some managerial re-organization. If anyone wants more details on the specific #'s involved I would be happy to pass them along or any questions regarding this dealership, feel free to contactme through edmunds. Stay away from Valley Dodge. I highly recommend you take your business to Christopher Dodge World. Note: I did not visit any other Dodge dealerships in the Denver area because they had no Ram 1500's I was interested in. I am sure they are all run better than Valley Dodge though. |
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Here is the deal I am contemplating. Any words of encouragement/discouragement would be appreciated. Dodge Ram SLT Crew Cab 4X4 Deep Water Blue TRX 3.92 Axle Ratio Chrome side steps and bed rails Luxury Group Technology Group Remote Start 5.7 Hemi uconnect phone MSRP: $42,250 Deal: $31,915 plus taxes, tags, etc. |
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these guys are killing me......the dealer i bought my 04 1500 called me said they had a nice 09 2500 in stock with a boss v 8.5 and would by my 04 back in trade... sticker is 41.385 for a not very loaded slt +++++ 6700 for the plow grand total 49.000,,,,,,, ok so i get them to give me 12.000 off the 49 ==37k wow thats high but i think im doing good.... do a little research find out these trucks are only about 36.500 blade about 4.500. so i search the web for this truck find it at the dealership it was brought down from, so i call this dealership knowing the truck is not there but just to see something,,, dealer says yes i am looking at it right now thru my window and there is a fellow looking at it as we speak(thats odd i know the truck is right down the street from me because i just looked at it 15 minutes ago) anyways i ask him what the price including the blade........he says 41.385 ok so were did the extra 6700 for the blade go no it is included in the price he says the truck was 36.500 he added the blade and now wants 41.385 for a car that is not on his lot remember......so i call back my buddy and say whats the deal your trying to get me for an extra 6700 that has already been factored into the price 36500+6700=roughly 41.385 so anyways what should i be paying for a 2009 dodge ram 2500 quad 4x4 slt missing some options like runners, clear. lites, i am thinking 29.000 out the door is a fair price including the blade the problem is everyone is at rock bottom the best line of them all "im not even making anything on this deal" we just need to move it........ any help would be appreciated basically what is a good price and is 12.000 off the msrp to much to ask right out of the gate |
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| Anyone recently price a 2010? I have seen the posts here where people have gotten over 10k off, but that's on a 2009. I am looking at a 2010 Laramie with a MSRP of $48,135. The dealer without negotiating gave me a price of $42,500, I asked if he could do better, he came back with $41,500. This includes the $2500 rebate. Dealer is located on Long Island. Any thoughts on these numbers? | |
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