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Re: 07 Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 Big Horn 5.7L Hemi [bucktim1] by frinka
Oct 25, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: bucktim1 (Oct 25, 2007 3:04 am)

OK......no, you are not crazy for walking. What type of trade in? How much did you pay for it? How much did you already invest in its purchase? Tell them 24,5 out the door which includes TTL....crazy? No. Why? There are plenty of dealers out there.
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Re: 07 Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 Big Horn 5.7L Hemi [bucktim1] by jfritsch
Oct 25, 2007 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: bucktim1 (Oct 25, 2007 3:04 am)

With your trade wholesale and 10000 off you have almost an 11000+ off msrp deal now. The average would be 12000. (if your trade is more than 3 years old it probalby isn't excellent either) If this guy is the only one with the Ram in yellow with blue polka dots and with exactly what you want within 140 miles you may want to tease him the last few days of the month and see what happens. You are nearing average territory now. The dodge website shows dealer inventory and who has exactly what you want.
 
Also get your financing in order for local banks and credit unions to see the better rates you qualify for. Its silly to quibble for 1200 or such and give away 2500+ over 4 years in financing.
 
Go to dodge's website and solicit email bids from 10-20 of the dealers within 100 miles for the truck with colors and necessary options. Tell them you are soliciting 20 bids in the email. Phone some of the smaller ones with no internet listed on the site. This saves tons of legwork and cuts to the chase end of month rather quick. If you get lucky and find a dealer in a bind you maybe able to get 14000+ off msrp and better financing than your credit union.
 
Good luck
--jjf
 

Went in (8/25/07) local dealer, left with no deal.
MSRP ~36,500 -6000 (rebate) -4100 (perferred discount) = $26635 with trade-in. Owe 13,500 they offer 14,000 (excellent kbb is 14,300), I want $24k + TTL. Am I crazy for wanting that , also they didnt have any on there lot so they were looking online...I am going to give a larger dealer in the city a try tomorrow. They have about 10 on lot but only 3or4 I will consider.
  
Advice anyone...
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Still failed by bucktim1
Oct 25, 2007 (3:30 pm)
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Tried the other dealer today, still no go. Truck MSRP 37590, in the end it was $545/60months/0%=32,700out-the-door. At first I thought I was getting -6000 and 0%, until I told him to do the math. They were going to give me 14500 for my car, 05 dodge neon srt4 36k. I still owe 13,300, paid 22.5k out the door(first new car, boy was I stupid).
I wont do over 27k out the door, and I dont want to give up any options.
My head hurts, have to go to sleep now.
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You haven't failed by phertel
Oct 28, 2007 (2:34 pm)
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You did not settle with a deal you are not happy with, so you have yet to fail. They have failed to make a sale. I know in KC, they are offering less off the 07's on the Rams (they all seem to say $11,500 off and that is without me getting into the fine print) but a lot of them are offering $10,000 or $11,000 off 08's.
Good luck, and congrats on learning a lesson after your first car buy.
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07 1500 SLT by eltipo
Apr 30, 2008 (5:02 pm)
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Looking to get a real good deal on an '07 Ram Quad Cab 1500 SLT w/ Sprt package, Nav, Tow, Protection, Hemi, etc. MSRP is 41,500. Dealer offering $8000 in rebates. I think I can get an otd price before rebate to 30000-32500. Am I nuts?
 
I really think you can play hardball with these trucks right now. Any help would be great.
 
Thanks,
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Re: 07 1500 SLT [eltipo] by jfritsch
May 01, 2008 (3:15 am)
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Replying to: eltipo (Apr 30, 2008 5:02 pm)

Is this a new leftover 07? I don't know, are you nuts? You mean for paying as much as you want otd.? The 36000 msrp 07 models sold for 12000+ off msrp all day long 8 months ago. I would want at least 13000-14000 off a 08 $41000 dodge 1500. Possibly more if the msrp increase from 07 is sizeable.
 
You should be able to get a new 08 like you stated for about your price or less, assuming 2500 or so is tax.
 
Lookup your 07 vehicle used on kbb.com and nada.com with 14000 miles on it. If it is new with low miles (1000) add about $1000-2000 or so to the wholesale used price for the price of a leftover new 07. Don't be surprised if you can work almost as good a deal as 30k otd on a new 08 amongst other dealers and your dealer won't play ball. They like to work these leftovers and demos for like new money. Its almost an ego thing.
 
Add about 15-20% or so (about 5500-6000 I guess) to the used wholesale 07 price for a target on a new 08.
 
Looking to get a real good deal on an '07 Ram Quad Cab 1500 SLT w/ Sprt package, Nav, Tow, Protection, Hemi, etc. MSRP is 41,500. Dealer offering $8000 in rebates. I think I can get an otd price before rebate to 30000-32500. Am I nuts?
  
I really think you can play hardball with these trucks right now. Any help would be great.
  
Thanks
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Re: 07 1500 SLT [jfritsch] by jfritsch
May 01, 2008 (3:29 am)
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Replying to: jfritsch (May 01, 2008 3:15 am)

Yow! I looked up an 07 model of your truck in 4wd and got a wholesale of $20000. If thats right 30 k is way too much for an 08 even. Double check me.
 
--jjf
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Re: 07 1500 SLT [jfritsch] by eltipo
May 01, 2008 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: jfritsch (May 01, 2008 3:29 am)

I have not gone to the dealership yet because it is over 50+ miles away. Yes, it is a new leftover 07 model. Their website has 2 of the exact same vehicle on the lot. I am thinking $30,000 otd plus the $7000-$8000 rebate. Financing would be for the 22000-23000 range which I do not think is absurd. It is just difficult to price an '07 with the current tools available on the internet.
 
I also have a trade that will be part of the deal. '05 Wrangler Unlimited w/ 14,000 miles in excellent condition. I am sure they can sell it certified used and recoup some of the discount they pass me.
 
I am banking on a slumping economy, soaring gas prices, and a lack of consumer spending.
 
Thanks for your help. Where did you check the price KBB, NADA, Edmunds TMV? I want to go into this armed to negotiate.
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Re: 07 1500 SLT [eltipo] by jfritsch
May 01, 2008 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: eltipo (May 01, 2008 5:54 am)

kbb.com nada.com used car appraiser. If a 41500 msrp dodge ram (probably 43000 msrp for 08) with nav and such`wholesales used in 12 months (07) for $20000, buying it (an 08) for any less than 15000-16000+ off msrp is financially painful. Your target for a leftover low mi new 07 (41000 msrp) is about $22000 or so. Somewhere around 24000-26000 on an 08. (preferably closer to the lower)
 
Forget about edmunds TMV on new vehicles. It is many times optimistic (for the dealer) and grossly optimistic for trucks. (I wonder what it is on a new 08 42000 ram?-- worth 20000 wholesale in a 12 months)
 
Check out my message 4681 on the hyundai sonata forum for useful info on how to buy a car. Forget about bringing in paperwork for negotiating. Get 10-20 + bids via email from dodge dealers last week of the month for 08s. Work the top 2-3 against one another, eventually via cell phone. If your leftover 07 dealer won't chop at least 2000-3000 off your best deal on a similar 08 forget about it.
 
Good luck
--jjf
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Re: 07 1500 SLT [jfritsch] by eltipo
May 01, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: jfritsch (May 01, 2008 7:10 am)

Thanks for the help. They just left a voice mail - Invoice plus the rebates and wholesale cost for the trade-in. It is enough to get me to look at the vehicle. I think dealers have not caught-up with the slumping economy and it has not hit them psychologically yet. They don't know they are selling snow cones in Alaska right now.
 
I'll let you know how I turn out.

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