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#8 of 17 1979 Hurst/Olds was not a 307
Mar 18, 2002 (8:39 pm)
The '79 H/O was one of the last of the Cutlass downsized bodies to use a true Oldsmobile 350. I know as I had the opportunity to buy one new and opted for a Calais (rear wheel drive) with a Chevy 305 instead. Just one of many stupid choices in my younger years. The Calais was great except for the engine.
#9 of 17 I forgot about the '78-79's
Mar 19, 2002 (5:27 am)
I was thinking more along the lines of the more aerodynamic '81-88 style, where for a few years they had a Hurst and for a few years they had a 4-4-2. Was Oldsmobile the only division to use a 350 in their downsized intermediates? I've seen Cutlasses with 350's, but it seems the biggest engine (stock, at least) that I've seen in Montes, Malibus, LeManses, GP's, Centurys and Regals of '78-79 are 301's or 305's.
Mar 19, 2002 (5:43 am)
The '78-'79 Cutlasses were great cars. You could keep one running forever if you really tried.
#11 of 17 I think all the Cutlasses of that generation...
Mar 19, 2002 (5:51 am)
...were great cars, as long as you got one with an Olds engine. I had an '82 with the Buick 231, which was ready to self-destruct around the 73K mark. In all fairness, it had 61K on it when I bought it, and I only paid $800 for it, and God only knows how well it had been taken care of by the previous owner.
I used to joke that if that car had had the 307, I'd still be driving it today! Weeeellll, maybe not. I've put about 185,000 miles on various cars since then, and totaled one of them, so I'm sure that, regardless of engine, it'd probably be junkyard fodder by now!
#12 of 17 They only produced 3000
Mar 19, 2002 (10:02 am)
Hurst Cutlasses in 83, so they are pretty rare. How desirable is a matter of speculation, since they had nothing near the performance of the late 60s and early 70s.
Mar 19, 2002 (3:58 pm)
More of a decal package than anything else. Those were the dark days when emission regulations were choking the cars too.
#14 of 17 One of my friends.....
Mar 20, 2002 (3:05 am)
Just happened to have one of these cars a few years back, and just happened to have a 455 Olds engine out of one of his previous project cars. It was a match made in heaven.
#15 of 17 I wanted to do something similar to that...
Mar 20, 2002 (5:25 am)
...to the '82 Cutlass Supreme I had. The body on the car was in great shape, but the Buick 231 was shot. At the time though, I also had a '69 Bonneville with a 400-4bbl, that had a great driveline but a bad body. I've always wondered what that 400 would've been like transplanted into that Cutlass.
I looked up some stats in my auto encyclopedia, looks like the Hurst was only offered in '83-84, and then it was called 4-4-2 from '85-87. The hp of the 307 was rated at 180 hp, same as the 305 in the Monte SS. One little aberration I noticed though...for '87, the 307 dipped down to 170 hp, although the 305 didn't. I guess maybe some new emissions controls were added that year, that the 307 didn't take as well to?
Mar 20, 2002 (3:59 pm)
Someone posted a link here to a web site on Olds engines and I kind of remember something about the heads being changed the last few years.
#17 of 17 Loved the "Lightning Rod" Shifter...
Mar 20, 2002 (7:51 pm)
Only offered '83-'84 in the Hurst car; deleted for the 4-4-2 model. Even though HP was down due to EPA, the car was fairly quick for its time at about 8 seconds 0-60.
I personally like the look of that car, but much prefer my '70 Cutlass with dual-gate shifter and big block ram-air 455.
Now the '69 Hurst/Olds--that was a car! I plan on owning one some day.
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