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#821 of 1828 This is from the 10th, if interested in source email me at aol by starrow68 Apr 23, 2004 (8:43 am)
This was the source of my Corvette and there are no adders! In Stock:   2004 Corvette Z06 (#24240) Preferred Equipment Pkg 1SA Front License Plate Frame Body Side Moldings Drivers Memory Package Electrochromic Mirror Package Millennium Yellow Exterior Black Interior   MSRP $54235 Dealer Invoice $48071.23   Sale Price $46969 ($1102.23 under invoice)   Less $2000 Chevrolet Rebate or GMAC financing   Net Price $44969 after $2000 rebate   2004 Corvette Convertible (#24188) Preferred Equipment Pkg 1SB Front License Plate Frame Body Side Moldings 6 Speed Transmission Magnesium Wheels Remote 12 Disc CD Changer Z51 Performance Handling Package Magnetic Red II Metallic Exterior Oak Convertible Top Oak Interior   MSRP $56555 Dealer Invoice $50067.88   Sale Price $48896 ($1171.88 under invoice)   Less $2000 Chevrolet Rebate or GMAC financing   Net Price $46896 after $2000 rebate   2004 Corvette Convertible (#24145) Preferred Equipment Pkg 1SC Front License Plate Frame Body Side Moldings 6 Speed Transmission Remote 12 Disc CD Changer Z51 Performance Handling Package LeMans Blue Metallic Commemorative Exterior Shale Commemorative Convertible Top Shale Commemorative Interior   MSRP $57310 Dealer Invoice $50724.73   Sale Price $49530 ($1194.73 under invoice)   Less $2000 Chevrolet Rebate or GMAC financing   Net Price $47530 after $2000 rebate
#822 of 1828 by gbjerke Apr 24, 2004 (5:13 pm)
Starrow-- Those are awesome numbers. I ran your figures on a site I look at, you know, build your own car, which gives invoice as well as sticker prices. I only ran the first two you mentioned, the Z06 and the convert. Sticker prices came out exactly the same but where you show the Z06 having an invoice of 48,071, my site showed 47,537. The convert you show as having an invoice of 50,067. My site indicates 49,258. It's only a 5-800 difference and I frankly don't know whose numbers are correct. Either way, it's a good deal. Makes me wonder though, there are factory to customer rebates that are well publicized; there are also factory to dealer rebates that are not so well publicized. You don't suppose GM is having some of those secret ones???
#823 of 1828 Interesting result by starrow68 Apr 25, 2004 (9:36 am)
That data is a cut and paste from a newsletter so the numbers are from a dealer, fairly remote, but I don't think they change invoice by area. There is a possiblity that GM did another price increase, which they have done several times a year since '02 and the lower numbers are old data. But as you note, a good deal, I'm checking if there are any more allocations to get exactly what my wife wants at those prices and figure that for $10k less driving a C5 while waiting for the C6 deals to get better won't be too much of a hardship. I'll probably get more out of 400 hp than she will in any case .    And if the dealer in this case wants to keep his rebate after getting me $2,200 to $3,000 below invoice, still looks good. I paid 15% more to have fun the last 2 1/2 years, and very glad I did, can't get back time!
#824 of 1828 Starrow... by gbjerke Apr 25, 2004 (5:21 pm)
Agreed. Patience is truly a virtue when car shopping. For anyone interested in a C5, now is the time....may get even better in a month or so as GM will want most all C5's off the lot when the C6 hits the dealers. All depends on the model/equipment you want and whether you can wait out for the best $$$. Been there/done that! Started shopping for a Z06 in May '01. Best I could do was sticker + 3500. Late May it was sticker. By July I bought (from an out of state dealer) and got like 5k off sticker. Two months and 5k savings made me a happy camper. Last summer looked to trade for an '03. Ended up doing so in August. Not necessarily smart in doing so but the '04's were out and there was no change from the '03's so what the hell, why not. I needed tires on the '01...think that is what I told my wife. Really wanted a fresh warrenty plus the 20 horses the '03 had over the '01 plus I got the heads up display. Worth it?? Probably not but that "instant gratification" is worth something right? I'm currently chomping at the bit for the C6 Z06. It's 15 months away and when they hit it will be the same old story...wait a bit and save some serious cash or jump in for that 'ol nemesis, "instant gratification". At my age, I think the "instant gratification" may rule the roost this time, especially if they meet their goal of 500 ponies and a 2900# car. Replies to this message: starrow68 (Apr 26, 2004 12:13 pm)
#825 of 1828 gbjerke by bigmike5 Apr 26, 2004 (11:22 am)
Never dealt with them so I don't know, but look at the Kerbeck site [largest Corvette dealer in US per the record books] where they list several examples of deals available, and a raft of instock and inbound models to which the discounts apply. I even printed some out so I can deal, hopefully, with my local guy for an 04, barring that, a plane ride to AC, Cleveland [Spitzer Chevy] or Dearborn/Detroit[Corvette King]is not out of the question.
#826 of 1828 Re: Starrow... [gbjerke #824] by starrow68 Apr 26, 2004 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: gbjerke (Apr 25, 2004 5:21 pm) Instant gradification sounds good but don't pass up on the web. There were several dealers that took early order books with $1k down to sell C6's at MSRP and after about a month of that there were a few that came along with $500 off MSRP. Most are well into their expected C6 allocations for 2004 & early 2005 but I bet it will repeat with the Z06. The internet dealers know that if they get your business from out of their area then it's a unit that wouldn't sell otherwise. In Vettes it's all about keeping the allocation.
#827 of 1828 fake vett by bigfrog May 06, 2004 (5:18 pm)
Do any of you vett owners feel like suckers now that the gto is out for a lot less then the vett but is the same drive train. Replies to this message: starrow68 (May 06, 2004 7:38 pm)
#828 of 1828 Re: fake vett [bigfrog #827] by starrow68 May 06, 2004 (7:38 pm)
Replying to: bigfrog (May 06, 2004 5:18 pm) Costs less and same drive train. So? It's got a back seat and weighs in at 3700#'s about 15% heavier and seems to make a nice daily driver for someone who wants to haul people. It's quarter time is about 7/10ths slower, so I think basicly it's a different set of wheels. From the Motor Trend review it got fairly high marks, hard to reference where to find that since the one I found says it's dated December 2004, which I take to be a misprint from 12/03. They also speculate that a 'more muscle' version will come along which could be the LS6 or the LS2 I would guess. If someone wants to spend less, go for it, I'll keep the Vette and enjoy the track much more I think.
#829 of 1828 bigfrog... by gbjerke May 09, 2004 (8:32 pm)
I think starrow hit it on the head. Lots of +'s for the GTO but it is really PHAT at 3700#. I'm not a bit sorry for buying the Vette as I am on my second Z06. Horses are but one minor element. Weight/suspension are HUGE in fun factor cars and unless I want to go to a 911TT at three times the price, I'll stick with the Z06 and smile all day long.
#830 of 1828 Might be getting a Z06 by fuzzywuzzy May 12, 2004 (8:21 am)
Any tips on what I should be paying? Real world #'s? I know the stickers, & invoices, & also saw a $3K rebate. The few dealers I looked at had them priced with the rebate down from sticker not invoice. I haven't talked to any saleguys yet & was just looking. Replies to this message: starrow68 (May 12, 2004 9:22 am)

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