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Replying to: motorhead1 (Nov 04, 2007 5:23 pm) |
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Nov 04, 2007 5:23 pm) Don't do it. When it stops, it's full. |
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Replying to: bolivar (Nov 04, 2007 7:59 pm)
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Nov 05, 2007 1:52 pm) overfill. However, my '02 is like most older cars, it will take whatever I want to add to round up to even $ amount. Randy |
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Nov 05, 2007 1:52 pm) And, on other forums with much, much more discussion that this one, most of them - when a pump hose click off, if you continue, it's going to go on the ground, after flowing down the side of your shinny car. And, I don't know if the C6 started the design, but I know my 2007 has a split tank. There are about 10 gallons on the left side, and another 10 gallons on the right side. And, there is a huge amount of hardware for the fuel tank. It basically has a large hose at the top that is used when filling to allow gas to flow to the other side tank. And it has a separate pump that does nothing but move gas from one side to the other where the actual fuel pump resides. And the computer looks at flow rates and if fuel is not transferring between the two tanks it will set an error message. And there have been cars towed because problems with this system. On one of the other forums I noted, there is a picture of an entire fuel tank system pulled from a car. And a schemetic. Very complex. So, something about this system allows gas to completely fill it up. To the top. More will run over. And, like Corvettes do, some new ones will NOT take gas. People talk about 15 minutes to put 10 gallons in a car. This has happened to mine one time - it shut down at about half a tank.
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Replying to: bolivar (Nov 05, 2007 6:16 pm) |
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Today is the 1 year point, and just over 15,500 miles of Daily Driver Duty + a couple of longer “out of town” trips in my C6. So, I decided to share the experience and my expectations of the next year of C6 driving here. Car: 2007 C6 Coupe, 3LT, A6, ‘Base Suspension’. Use: 75+ percent = commuting in & out of Mid-Town HotLanta. The rest has been primarily the typical errand running, shopping, out-to-dinner and a couple of longer runs – 500+ miles in a long weekend. Overall MPG: Current average for all use: 22.37 Highway MPG: Consistently over 28. This is my first Corvette, and my first sports \ GT car – in over 38 years of buying cars. There is much to commend the C6, and I have largely enjoyed the driving experience. I am glad I [ finally ] decided to buy a Corvette. A confluence of personal circumstances & the additional refinements of the ’07 C6 made this a viable choice – for me. The fact that this very high performance GT car can actually be used as a Daily Driver & commuter is still rather surprising to me. The actual, average fuel mileage continues to be remarkable, though I had read accounts here & elsewhere regarding similar mileage before purchasing mine. The acceleration is certainly exceptional. Under most driving conditions, the C6 is docile & not nearly as demanding, as noisy or as stiff riding as sports cars I remember driving & riding in as recently as 10 years ago. I find the ride and the seating quite livable, in both commuting and longer trips. I have great respect for the Corvette team. They have developed an extraordinarily capable and rewarding vehicle to drive – at what I see as a very reasonable price. And yet, when the time does come to sell or trade my C6, I expect that I will not replace it with another Corvette. The reasons for that have more to do with my personal preferences and my use of the car as a Daily Driver than anything I’d describe as inherently ‘wrong’ with the C6. For those who may care, my reasons to choose a different car than a Corvette next time include: Life’s just too short to ( with rare exceptions ) repeat such things as car ownership. The selection of interesting vehicles available continues to grow each day, it seems. I enjoy variety, and even a significantly enhanced C6 will not likely be ‘different enough’ to sway me. But that’s just me & just my opinion . . . More seriously: I had a significant trans. issue ( described elsewhere ) that finally resulted in ‘only third gear’ & a CEL at approx. 12,000 miles. The preliminary symptoms of that issue appear to be re-surfacing recently. This re-occurrence of a major ( supposedly ‘fixed’ ) problem, I find rather discouraging, troubling & very irritating. I remain concerned each time I drive this car that I will smack something vulnerable under the front end. I am very careful at intersections & driving over \ through abrupt transitions – yet even the 2” drop, backing out of my garage scrapes the front spoiler every time. I understand that the lowness is an integral part of the Corvette Experience – and clearly contributes to the nimble and ‘confidence inspiring’ handling. I have seen threads here about raising the car – and it also appears that somewhat more aggressive damping ( Koni FSDs, perhaps ) might also help. But I doubt I’ll do either. I will just live with this until I trade. It annoys me that I have to. The ongoing issues with properly lifting a C6 amaze me – and I am very glad that I have so far not had to take my car for service to any but “my” ( selling ) dealer. Seems to me that, at this point in the Corvette model year(s) cycle, taking a C6 to most any Chevy Dealer should not be a cause for nervousness & trepidation. But it certainly is, at least for me. Although I had no problem with hand washing my C6 in my driveway every weekend, I cannot now ( legally ) do that. And with the current ( and likely future ) water restrictions here in North Georgia, I do now rue the fact that I cannot take the car through even a “high-end” car wash, occasionally. I really miss a true sunroof \ moonroof. Much more than I expected that I would. I have had a tilt up or slide back clear roof on every car I have purchased since 1985, and several sedans I had before that had solid sunroofs. I have the clear top & purchased the headliner from DSVettes. The fact that I cannot tilt up the rear of the roof, for additional ventilation & the fact that when the top is removed, the resulting buffeting reduces the comfortable top speed ( for me ) to well below my typical highway pace combine to mean I really do miss the convenience a more traditional moonroof with sliding sunscreen offered – and a switch that conveniently & instantly allowed a number of combinations of sun, shade & additional fresh air. While driving. Oh, well. Having to re-apply silicone monthly to all top mating surfaces, to avoid annoying creaks, snaps & groans is a minor ( related ) annoyance. The one time I had an issue with an OEM run-flat Goodyear ( even having done research on this here prior to purchase ) I was still amazed at the mis-information and lack of help I received from both Chevy Dealers and Goodyear stores. I was and I remain annoyed that I had to spend additional $$s to make my Corvette sound like – well, like anything, really. The OEM system on my 2007 allowed virtually none of the characteristic heterodyne beat of a V8 motor to escape. And the ‘drone’ issue on any aftermarket A6 system makes this doubly aggravating. If I’d waited & bought a 2008, I’d have bought the new NPP \ dual mode OEM system. And a Mild2Wild ‘switch’. As it is, I have had a compromise \ hybrid system installed, that is “OK”. I miss having more storage space in the passenger compartment. I miss having a back seat. Though I rarely have used one for passengers, the additional room was useful for ‘stuff’ I typically carry. Now I hasten to add here ( again ) that none of this is meant to disparage or ‘disrespect’ the C6. It is a commendable effort. Overall, it is a terrific GT car - and if any car with an MSRP over $50K can be termed ‘a bargain’, then I consider it to be a bargain. And it is the only GT car I can imagine that I could actually use as a Daily Driver. And I do recognize that any sedan I might choose will ( stock ) not be in the same acceleration or handling class as the C6. (( sigh )) If I could justify having a car that was exclusively devoted to weekend “for fun only” duty, it would almost certainly be a Corvette Coupe. Cheers, - Ray Hoping the next 15,500 miles will be even better . . .
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Replying to: rayainsw (Nov 06, 2007 7:46 am) |
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Replying to: rayainsw (Nov 06, 2007 7:46 am) different experiences that arrive at the present, so the Corvette my be perfect for some and maybe have some issues for others. I really relate to your comment about newer cars vs. older sports cars. I drove an MG for a dozen of more years in the 70's/80's before commuting in a Nissan for 15 years, and when I got the C5 I thought I would keep the mileage down by going with a low mile C4 for the 5 mile commute to the BART station. After a year, it was so much less satisfying to get into the C4 that I unloaded it so I could drive the C5 more. 73k miles later I'm still pretty happy. Randy |
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The National Corvette Museum held a track event last weekend at the Spring Mountain Motorsports Park in Pahrump, NV, about 55 miles to the NW of Las Vegas. There were about 100 Corvettes on track for the weekend in 5 different classes. Some very fast race cars driven by folks that compete nationally with SCCA and NASA as well as folks who were out for the first time on track with instructors. The NCM has several folks that organize and run events and with some support and entries from GM staff it makes for a great weekend of meeting folks from all over the country. Got to do some laps with one of the GM brass and then provided rides to several folks and one spouse who wanted to see the track. Spring Mountain is the home to a Corvette driving school so they are very familiar with the cars and the best line to get around the 3.1 mile course we were driving. They provided some late Friday laps at lower speeds to get folks up to speed on the upper Radical loop which is new to most of the folks not from the So. Calif area. It is a portion of the track not used in the regular school and is much tighter than the main course. This resulted in a few offs during the weekend but nobody did any thing fatal to their car's for the whole weekend. There were a few mechanicals, but considering there were some GM staff cars that were driving in four out of five sessions, the cars got used heavily. The turn out was truly national as I got to talk to several folks from the Bay Area, like me, and also three black Z06's that were towed in from GA on a single 5th wheel rig by three couples. There were also guys I talked to from WA, Chicago, NY and Maryland. It was worth the 1000+ mile round trip just to meet some of the top Corvette folks from GM. Hopefully they will come out to the Bay Area one of these days. Randy |
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