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Replying to: motorhead1 (Jul 14, 2007 3:53 am) set and so you can move either when the time comes. The big thing for me getting my 6sp in a 2002 was that I didn't do much driving in heavy traffic, and it's a good thing, the few times I've been in grid lock it has been painful. With the new 6sp Auto I think the decision has just gotten a lot harder. I drive my manual on track and it is the way to go for performance compared to the old 4sp Auto. But I've also driven the 6sp Auto on track it is amazingly close in the performance at speed. It's worth a look. IMO the 4sp auto will be the hard one to move in the future. randy |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 14, 2007 7:54 am) The 6-speed automatic: Coupe = 14093 & 65.6% Convertible = 8329 & 76.3% Z06 = 0 & 0 The 6-speed Manual: Coupe = 7391 34.4% Convertible = 2589 & 23.7% Z06 = 8159 & 100% Now IMHO none of these numbers should sway a potential purchaser toward or away from any particular configuration – or color combination, for that matter. A Corvette purchase is typically not the same as many other vehicles. And if I am buying, insuring and filling the tank, then I want as close to ** MY ** perfect configuration as I can afford. Resale \ depreciation – within the range of ‘best to worst’ among all Corvettes concerns me far less. I ordered my C6 with a combination of color & equipment that my local dealer ( largest in the SouthEast ) would never order for stock. And I am certain that I will not receive the absolute highest trade-in value, when the time comes. But I drive over 15,000 miles a year in my Corvette – and I wanted it equipped with ( and without ) certain options. YMMV. - Ray Very happy with my choices . . .
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 16, 2007 2:55 am) I ordered my C6 with a combination of color & equipment that my local dealer ( largest in the SouthEast ) would never order for stock. And I am certain that I will not receive the absolute highest trade-in value, when the time comes. But I drive over 15,000 miles a year in my Corvette – and I wanted it equipped with ( and without ) certain options."... Your above quotes are some of the reasons for the success of the Corvette line. In theory the "ordered" choices (on the issue of auto vs manual: is dictated by customer demand, rather than an oem making more automatics than manuals, because is a "safer" guess about what would be "better" on the market. Also resale according to what I have read is one of the best for ANY American car and competes rather well with the highest end Euro nameplates in that category, i.e., Porsche might beat it out slightly on the resale issue.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 16, 2007 5:25 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 16, 2007 5:25 am) http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/best-resale-value-2007.html?partner=yahoo Roughly comparable to a Lexus. Many find this surprising. As many also find the highway cruising \ trip fuel economy ( I average close to 30 MPG at 70 – 80 MPH with passenger & luggage ), the insurance rates and many other aspects. My dealer is the largest volume Corvette dealer in the SouthEast – and #4 in the country, last numbers I’ve seen. My sales person does the ordering for stock. Close to 100% are ordered with the Z51 package. Though roughly 42% are built with this option, they know from years of experience what they can most easily sell to THEIR typical customers. They do typically end up with a few Non-Z51s on the lot. A couple are ordered primarily for comparison test drives - and some are purchased from other dealers. Thus, before ordering, I was able to test drive a Z51 and an FE1 back to back. The availability of the 6L80 automatic w/paddle shift was a primary determining factor in my purchase timing. For me, this was a critical ‘step up’ from the previous 4-speed automatic with very limited manual control. YMMV. - Ray
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 18, 2007 5:17 am) as Z51 orders. Out on the left coast we don't really have a super high volume Corvette dealer and the low volume guys are pretty clueless except about walk-in impulse buyers. So lots of dealer orders for stock are auto's when that was standard and not extra cost and those were the ones left on the lots when the year ended. I've now picked up two Vettes by ordering off the internet and both as I and the wife wanted them as to options and colors. Don't think I would waste time on local dealers except to see new colors if I decide to get a new one in the future. Randy |
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Replying to: starrow68 (Jul 18, 2007 7:35 am) So for example, by the time one goes to the dealer and sees 75% of the new crop of Vettes with automatics and wants say a 6 speed and upcoming 6 speed auto paddle shifter, most probably one has missed the model year. So if you bypass the 6 speed manual because all they had WAS automatics, the system really thinks most like autos.
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Replying to: starrow68 (Jul 18, 2007 7:35 am) RE: Volume Dealer in CA. Boardwalk, in Redwood City is a relatively high volume Corvette dealer – in the top 10, nationally, as I recall. They currently have 27 2007 coupes according to their web site. RE: ‘ordering off the internet’. How did that work for you, exactly? Although my initial contact with this salesperson and this dealership was via email, I physically went to the dealer 3 times. And bought my 2007 from them. 1 – I wanted to drive a new Corvette. Or 2. ( See above. ) Since I had not driven any C6, I needed to check several items regarding both the car’s dynamic behavior and how I fit. 2 – Once we had agreed on the price, I went to finalize the order & sign it. 3 – I picked up the car. When I felt close to making the decision to buy my 2007 Corvette, I scheduled a visit to this dealer and spoke only with this salesperson – to test drive Corvettes. About a 45 minute drive from where I live. This was in early July 2006. Once I had driven the 2 C6s ( both were 2006 automatics – 2007s were not yet at dealers, but had no significant changes ) that I wanted to evaluate, I told the salesperson that I wanted the best price on an ordered 2007. The price was about what I had expected ( $2K off MSRP ) and I said: “When you meet the discount I want, I’ll buy.” Response: “OK. Great, I will keep you posted.” I was kept up to date via weekly emails, as discounts grew over time – but with no further real interaction until the email arrived with a discount that met “my number”. This was late in September 2006. I called and set an appointment the next day to order my 2007. It was delivered in early November. So my test drives were – 4 months prior to actually closing the sale. I suppose you could describe it as 2.5 months of ( very one-sided ) price ‘negotiation’ and 1.5 months for the schedule \ build \ delivery process. More important, before scheduling my Corvette test drives, I had test driven a number of other “contenders” prior to the C6 test drives – including the BMW 335i coupe, for example. I knew my timeline. I was up front with each salesperson I spoke to. If I had less stringent requirements on exactly the optional equipment I wanted ( and didn’t want ) and more flexibility on color, I would probably have bought a C6 from the selection on the dealer’s lot. They usually have 25 or so new Coupes in their inventory. The Internet is great. Research is great – and essential, for me. But a thorough test drive ( or 2 ) is necessary before I’ll spend close to $50,000. YMMV. - Ray Happy Corvette Driver |
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Jul 18, 2007 3:44 am) |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 18, 2007 7:48 am) By contrast: For example, the STS could not be ordered with the highest level performance handling package ( was RPO: QAF – now designated PCZ and essentially includes the former QAF components + more ) except on the highest PEG level on the V8. ( That was a 1SG ‘Preferred Equipment Group’ and was an $8,000+ package – and included a number of rather ‘pricey’ luxury \ convenience items that are of very limited interest, thus limited value – to me. GM \ Caddy Marketing triumphs over actual customer preferences. Another item of particular interest to me: The Head-Up display was also ( during much of MY 2005, 06 & 07 ) available for order only bundled with the ( K59 ) Adaptive Cruise Control ( at over $2,000 additional ) and only on the 1SG as well. Since my Corvette has a HUD – and no adaptive cruise control, this is clearly marketing driven. Again. This is one primary reason that today I drive a Corvette and not an STS. I do like the RWD STS. And I do understand that certain combinations of optional equipment may conflict – or legitimately one may require another. But. The ordering limitations & associated pricing were 2 big reasons why I have not purchased one. Had I been able to ‘cherry-pick’ only & exactly the options I wanted & was willing to pay for, I’d likely have purchased an STS V8 back when GM was running their “Employee Pricing For Everyone” promotion. For 2008, GM \ Caddy appears to have addressed several of my concerns in these regards. I plan to test drive & price a 2008 STS. - Ray Really, really curious about your ordering experience . . .
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