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#1601 of 1947
Auto vs. manual by motorhead1
Jul 14, 2007 (4:53 am)
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I want to buy a new Vette this fall but can`t decided if I want an auto or a manual. I was wondering, if I get ready to sell this car, which will be easier to sell the auto or manual?
#1602 of 1947
Re: Auto vs. manual [motorhead1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 14, 2007 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Jul 14, 2007 4:53 am)

I don't think it matters....there are buyers for both types out there...probably an automatic would take a little longer to move, but it will appeal to people who use the Corvette as a high speed long-distance GT car, who drive in a lot of traffic, or who have knee problems, etc.
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Re: Auto vs. manual [motorhead1] by ruking1
Jul 14, 2007 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Jul 14, 2007 4:53 am)

I read this in passing, and have not kept good statistics for the C-5, C6 generation, but fully 75 % of the total Corvette production (C-5,C-6 generation, 34,000-36,000 per year) have "automatics". 100% of the Z06 model line have been 6 speed manuals.(app 6000-8,000) So by default, that does not leave very many NON Z06's, which are 6 speed manuals (3%=1,080 per year + 8,000 Z06's= app 9,080/36,000=25%).:(
 
In my humble opinion, if you do longer touring, weekend warrioring, more specialized track applications, the 6 speed is the one to have. The anomoly is the Z06 has app 10% lower gearing vs the non Z06 6 speed. So the Z06 gets app 1-2 mpg LESS.
 
If you do a fair amount of stop and go traffic, or are a LA cruiser type,(PCH on a gorgeous SAT/SUN afternoon), an automatic can be a no brainer.
#1604 of 1947
Re: Auto vs. manual [ruking1] by motorhead1
Jul 14, 2007 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 14, 2007 7:50 am)

I have a 2002 Vette with an auto now but always wanted a manual. I just didn`t know how hard it would be to resale a manual when I decided to buy another Vette later. Thanks for the input.
#1605 of 1947
Re: Auto vs. manual [motorhead1] by ruking1
Jul 14, 2007 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Jul 14, 2007 8:39 am)

I guess you can see that 3% (6 speed manual, non Z06) any number of ways: 1. very limited, almost custom production, increased desirability (resale value) 2. It is so limited and such a minority population (3%) it is in danger of being overshadowed and don't be caught dead with one. 3. etc.
 
2001 Z06 Corvette here, got it new with 4 miles on the odometer. The salesman took me through the streets of St Helena, CA (wine country) for its first full tank and two extra miles. Since he knew the area WELL and was a SCCA licensed driver, we took a longer ala "fast" tour of the locations of a few wineries.
#1606 of 1947
Re: Auto vs. manual [motorhead1] by starrow68
Jul 15, 2007 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: motorhead1 (Jul 14, 2007 4:53 am)

As noted by several, the auto vs. 6sp appeals to a different
set and so you can move either when the time comes. The big
thing for me getting my 6sp in a 2002 was that I didn't do
much driving in heavy traffic, and it's a good thing, the
few times I've been in grid lock it has been painful. With
the new 6sp Auto I think the decision has just gotten a lot
harder. I drive my manual on track and it is the way to go
for performance compared to the old 4sp Auto. But I've also
driven the 6sp Auto on track it is amazingly close in the
performance at speed. It's worth a look. IMO the 4sp auto
will be the hard one to move in the future.
randy
#1607 of 1947
actual #s \ percentages Re: Auto vs. manual [ruking1] by rayainsw
Jul 16, 2007 (3:55 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 14, 2007 8:54 am)

Final 2007 production numbers have been published.
 
The 6-speed automatic:
Coupe = 14093 & 65.6%
Convertible = 8329 & 76.3%
Z06 = 0 & 0
 
The 6-speed Manual:
Coupe = 7391 34.4%
Convertible = 2589 & 23.7%
Z06 = 8159 & 100%
 
Now IMHO none of these numbers should sway a potential purchaser toward or away from any particular configuration – or color combination, for that matter.
 
A Corvette purchase is typically not the same as many other vehicles. And if I am buying, insuring and filling the tank, then I want as close to ** MY ** perfect configuration as I can afford. Resale \ depreciation – within the range of ‘best to worst’ among all Corvettes concerns me far less.
 
I ordered my C6 with a combination of color & equipment that my local dealer ( largest in the SouthEast ) would never order for stock. And I am certain that I will not receive the absolute highest trade-in value, when the time comes. But I drive over 15,000 miles a year in my Corvette – and I wanted it equipped with ( and without ) certain options.
 
YMMV.
 
- Ray
Very happy with my choices . . .
#1608 of 1947
Re: actual #s \ percentages Re: Auto vs. manual [rayainsw] by ruking1
Jul 16, 2007 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 16, 2007 3:55 am)

..."A Corvette purchase is typically not the same as many other vehicles. And if I am buying, insuring and filling the tank, then I want as close to ** MY ** perfect configuration as I can afford. Resale \ depreciation – within the range of ‘best to worst’ among all Corvettes concerns me far less.
  
I ordered my C6 with a combination of color & equipment that my local dealer ( largest in the SouthEast ) would never order for stock. And I am certain that I will not receive the absolute highest trade-in value, when the time comes. But I drive over 15,000 miles a year in my Corvette – and I wanted it equipped with ( and without ) certain options."...
 
Your above quotes are some of the reasons for the success of the Corvette line. In theory the "ordered" choices (on the issue of auto vs manual: is dictated by customer demand, rather than an oem making more automatics than manuals, because is a "safer" guess about what would be "better" on the market. Also resale according to what I have read is one of the best for ANY American car and competes rather well with the highest end Euro nameplates in that category, i.e., Porsche might beat it out slightly on the resale issue.
#1609 of 1947
Re: actual #s \ percentages Re: Auto vs. manual [ruking1] by motorhead1
Jul 18, 2007 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 16, 2007 6:25 am)

Well I have decided as soon as I can sell my 02 Vette I am going to order a 08. I`m going to get the manual with the new red color and 3LT with chrome wheels. Thanks to everyone for the help.
#1610 of 1947
resale \ ordering Re: actual #s \ percentages [ruking1] by rayainsw
Jul 18, 2007 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 16, 2007 6:25 am)

The resale \ trade-in \ residual values for Corvettes have historically been among the highest in the segment.
 
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/best-resale-value-2007.html?partner=yahoo
 
Roughly comparable to a Lexus. Many find this surprising. As many also find the highway cruising \ trip fuel economy ( I average close to 30 MPG at 70 – 80 MPH with passenger & luggage ), the insurance rates and many other aspects.
 
My dealer is the largest volume Corvette dealer in the SouthEast – and #4 in the country, last numbers I’ve seen.
 
My sales person does the ordering for stock. Close to 100% are ordered with the Z51 package. Though roughly 42% are built with this option, they know from years of experience what they can most easily sell to THEIR typical customers.
 
They do typically end up with a few Non-Z51s on the lot. A couple are ordered primarily for comparison test drives - and some are purchased from other dealers. Thus, before ordering, I was able to test drive a Z51 and an FE1 back to back.
 
The availability of the 6L80 automatic w/paddle shift was a primary determining factor in my purchase timing. For me, this was a critical ‘step up’ from the previous 4-speed automatic with very limited manual control.
 
YMMV.
- Ray

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