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#540 of 574 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues
Jun 29, 2011 (7:02 am)
Hello Everyone! This is my very first post. I have had a few issues w/my breaks (pads mostly, i guess) and I wanted to ask for assistance. I purchased my car in 2005 from a dealer, it had 3,500 miles on it from a first owner who was "traveling out of the country". I never had any major issues with the car until this past Fall/Winter. I noticed the breaks becoming less reliable. I drive to the city every day, but I basically just put 2 miles in the city, most of the other way I drive is in the suberbs on semi-highway roads. Sometimes theres a lot of traffic, sometimes there isnt. Most of the time the other cars on the roads drive like crazy lunatics. Tailgating has become a daily ritual. I get very worried when a car is very close to me from behind (driving or at a red light). I've had two people hit my car from behind and it may be taking its toll (psychologically) on me. The last time was just this past July, we were 6 cars in the accident. The culprit was two cars -SUVs- behind me. I drive safely but also not too slow, not too fast. Just in between.
Going back to the issue hand, the breaks of my car are giving me a hard time. After fixing the break past this past December 31st, I keep experiencing unreliable break motions. I have to break much earlier than before. The pads dont seem to be very strong. I always go to the Toyota Dealer for maintenance. In February and again just today (June) I have gone to the dealer so they can re-check the pads. Yesturday on my way home, everytime I'd press on the breaks I would have to press far too much down in order for me to feel the breaks doing its job. Also, Whenever I put the A/C on the breaks feel even worse!! I cant put the A/C on anymore! So today when I took it back in (just as what happened in Feb) the dealer tells me that the break pads are fine and they cleaned it and tightened it up for me. They looked all throughout the car and couldnt find any fault with the breaks. I asked them "Could it be something else perhaps!?!" They said they looked everywhere and did a test run for 2 miles and couldnt figure out what I was talking about because the breaks were "fine".
Am I delusional ?! Does anyone else with a Corolla have the same issues as me?? My car has 58,500 miles on it. As I mentioned before I bought it with 3,500 miles.. I bought it in October 2005.
#541 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [holidaylisa]
Jun 29, 2011 (9:54 am)
Putting on the A.C, increases engine RPM's. Therefore if your brakes are not grabbing as before it would make sense that the increased engine RPM's would even make it seem more so. However, if there was a problem with the brakes I believe a test drive would have confirmed this with the dealer. With your past driving history perhaps sudden braking might actually have been the initial problem with the original set of brake pads.
#542 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [holidaylisa]
Jul 05, 2011 (6:57 am)
On a car that's at least 6 years old (you didn't say what year it is) I would suspect a failing brake master cylinder.
A weak master cylinder can act up intermittently.
In the future have the brake fluid changed every 3 years (2 years with ABS).
That will greatly extend the life of brake components.
#543 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [terceltom]
Jul 06, 2011 (10:21 am)
What do you mean by "With your past driving history perhaps sudden braking might actually have been the initial problem with the original set of brake pads." ?? I don't stop suddenly, and never have.
#544 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [circuitsmith]
Jul 06, 2011 (10:24 am)
I mentioned that I bought the car in 2005 with it having 3,500 miles on it.. i would assume you'd figure it was a 2005 Corolla w/my title as well
I'll have the dealer look at the master cylinder. I had an emissions inspection done on my car last week and it passed. I do put break fluid in my car and I have a bottle on hand.
Btw, I used to have a 1990 Jetta (from when it was 9-15 years) and I know quite a bit about dealing w/older cars.
#545 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [holidaylisa]
Jul 06, 2011 (10:43 am)
Don't take it personnal, but quoting your own words, you spoke of your erratic brake behavior, others tailgating you, being in two rear enders where you were hit from behind and possible physcological problems with braking and questioning if you are delusional with this braking issue. I thought perhaps there could be some kind of correlation between all of these episodes. Perhaps the initial brake pads were way too grabby attributing to some of these issues that you spoke of and actually the real culprit to start with. Maybe the brake pads you have on now are really the way your brake pads should be. In other words the real problem could have been the old set of pads not the new set.
#546 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [terceltom]
Jul 07, 2011 (7:30 am)
Okay, I should tell you about the accidents..
Both accidents occured during my drive into work. The first one was when I was on the left lane of a two part lane going one way when this lady in an SUV was trying to get to my lane from the right lane. She didnt wait for me to pass by (my lane was moving, hers was all stopped). I normally drive even slower, expecting people to try to get to my lane. But this woman just slammed on her gas pedal and obviously didnt look before trying to go to the left lane. The speed limit was 25 in that area. The woman hit me from the back side and back area. She either didnt see me or didnt pay attention. HER FAULT.
The second accident, like I mentioned in my original posting, was a 6-car accident. And, like I mentioned, I was in the 3rd to the back row. So, three cars were ahead of me, and two were behind me. The front 5 cars were stopped (again, a 25 mile an hr area) when this lady in her SUV comes speeding from the light that was two blocks away. She was on her cell phone and wasnt paying attention. We were stopped for at least a minute or two before we all got hit (and hit each other). Again, NOT MY FAULT.
I don't believe I mentioned ANYWHERE about my brake behavior being horrible!! If anything, I mentioned that it takes a while before my car comes to a complete stop when I press the breaks. If driving the speed limit and safely is crazy, then I guess I should drive like a maniac and tailgate other drivers!! NOT! Just yesturday I saw three SUVs flipped over- probably hit each other before going to the side ditch of the road. No thank you!! I'd rather drive safely! I live in a major city with too many crazy idiot drivers. Almost every day there are at least 2-3 accidents and people are always driving like they're playing a game on their x-box!
#547 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [holidaylisa]
Jul 07, 2011 (10:51 am)
I don't believe I mentioned ANYWHERE either, about your brake behavior being horrible!!
I hope you resolve your brake issue.
#548 of 574 Re: 2005 Toyota Corolla - Break Issues [holidaylisa]
Jul 08, 2011 (11:46 am)
"i would assume you'd figure..."
We all know what happens when you assume...
However I see it's in the title, my bad.
"I'll have the dealer look at the master cylinder"
Nobody can tell if a master cylinder is bad just by looking at it.
"I do put break fluid in my car"
Topping off the reservoir is not the same as flushing out all the old fluid and replacing with new.
#549 of 574 Re: Corolla Transmission Fluid 2006 [terceltom]
Dec 31, 2011 (3:02 am)
I would suggest you become informed before using a KB about facts as opposed to just your dangerous opinion!