Mini Cooper v. Hyundai Tiburon v. Acura RSX v. Subaru WRX - READ ONLY

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What is this discussion about? MINI Cooper, Hyundai Tiburon, Acura RSX, Subaru Impreza, Hatchback

#10 of 298 performance by toyunki

Mar 04, 2002 (11:50 pm)

...We took it to our favorite mountain road with another Eight Great contestant for a head-to-head battle. The winner would make the list. And the Hyundai, after only a few minutes of flogging, was the clear victor.........
 
It(Tiburon) is now one of the best sport compacts for the money. Just don't tell the lawyers.

--Josh Jacquot
    
  http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/archives/features/feature01_0402c.shtml

TO ALL said Tib perform bad....

Compareson

2003 Tib V6GT ($18,399)
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 2.9 sec.
0-60 mph: 7.6 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.8 sec.
50-70 mph: 4.1 sec.
Quarter Mile: 15.6 sec. 88.8 mph

Handling
Slalom (700 ft): 68.2 mph
Lateral grip (200ft skidpad): .84g

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 122 ft.

RSX-S ($23,650)
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 3.0 sec.
0-60 mph: 6.9 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.5 sec.
50-70 mph: 3.4 sec.
Quarter Mile: 15.0 sec. 94.5 mph

Handling
Lateral Grip (200ft skidpad): 0.88 g
Slalom Speed (700ft slalom): 68.0 mph

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 133 ft
  Celica GT-S ($22,040)
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 2.9 sec
0-60 mph: 8.1 sec
30-50 mph: 3 sec
50-70 mph: 4.4 sec
Quarter Mile time: 15.8 sec
Quarter Mile speed: 88.6 mph
  Handling
Lateral Grip (200ft skidpad): 0.85g
Slalom Speed (700ft slalom): 69.9 mph

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 129 ft

Accordding to SportsCompactCar.....
Tib is just par or right betweem two best japaneses sports coupe....

Acceleration (1/4miles)

1. RSX-S 15 sec
2. Tiburon GT 15.6sec
3. Celica GTS 15.8sec

Handling

skid pad 200ft skid pad

1, RSX-S .88g
2, Celica GTS .85g
3, Tiburon GT .84g

Slalom (700ft slalom)

1. Celica GTS 69.9 mph
2. Tiburon GT 68.2 mph
3. RSX-S 68.0 mph

Braking(60-0)

1. Tiburon 122ft
2. Celica GTS 129ft
3. RSX-S 133ft

And If you adds UP the ranking all three cars tied with 8 points( add up the number of ranking)

#11 of 298 I'd still take the RSX since I can by fxashun

Mar 05, 2002 (3:23 pm)

think of many more times I've used full accelleration and steady state cornering than going slaloming and full-on braking. Especially considering the major difference in accelleration opposed to braking. The RSX is pulling away. Maybe they shoulda used a regular RSX.
 
But I don't like the interior of either car so I'm buying a 1993 two or four door and a Turbo.

#12 of 298 Mini All The Way by acrsx

Mar 10, 2002 (11:39 am)

From an RSX owner - whose tottally tempted to go scoop up the Cooper S... I'd probably wait a year or two though for the dust to settle down on it.
 
Of course if you can bring yourself to a higher priced gem - maybe get the Honda S2000 instead.

#13 of 298 2003 Hyundai Tiburon in the news! by revka

Mar 12, 2002 (6:30 pm)

From Edmunds' Daily Headlines section, here's an article that you may find interesting: Hyundai Revs Its Engines With A Sporty Tiburon. (This is not a permanent link.) Hope you enjoy.
 
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#14 of 298 tiburon vrs acura vrs mini by nipponiaze

Apr 03, 2002 (6:51 pm)

a tiburon is for people who have no taste, I would rather have a golf GTI, or a acura RSX, but a hyundai is a joke. but we all learn buy our mistakes I had a escort GT, back in 1987. Tiburons are ugly, and it sounds like, your wife has taste and you have none. if Americans would wake up we whouldnt have stupid cars like, taurus , intrepids, malibu,s etc. and did I mention buicks, if you bought a tiburon, for under $18,000 in 4 years its worth $8,000, whereas the acura you bought for $20,000 is still worth $14.000 or more. you do the math, which was a smarter purchase.

#15 of 298 Tiburons are ugly? by beowulf7

Apr 03, 2002 (8:02 pm)

News to me! Have you seen the 2003 model? Yes, the predecessors were a disaster, but most folks generally think that Hyundai did a commendable job with the totally redesigned Tiburon - at least from the exterior syling perspective. Now in acceleration performance, interior styling, etc. those other cars you mentioned (GTI and RSX-S) would have the upper hand.

#16 of 298 I'm sorry... by fxashun

Apr 03, 2002 (10:13 pm)

The Tiburon is still ugly. Just not as ugly as the earlier versions.

#17 of 298 Styling department... by verozahl

Apr 03, 2002 (11:27 pm)

... Tiburon competes with Celica in that respect.
The RSX is more refined, has a cleaner look.
 
The 2003 Tib is called Tuscani in Korea...
I don't understand why Hyundai didn't say...
okay, no more Scoupe... now Tiburon... and then
Tuscani. The 2001 and 2003 models are very different at least in styling.

#18 of 298 tiburon vrs RSX vrs mini by jrose3

Apr 04, 2002 (9:21 pm)

what class the tiburon is in is not important,a celica stripped down, would be a better buy then a full, a fully loaded tiburon, hyundai,s do not have a good reputation, most of you people, never heard of a hyundai excell, or just have short memories, buying a hyundai is like buying a mustang GT, both have questionable pasts. when buying a car, horsepower isn't the most important, if people were educated, there would only be Honda and Toyota (Acura,(Lexus) still in business. except all the German makes, there is no other options. but please don't buy, a good car, then well all have the same car, and I need to laugh at someone.

#19 of 298 MSRP for Mini by harlequin1971

Apr 05, 2002 (10:22 am)

Word on the streets here in the southwest is that the Minis will be sold at MSRP, with no markups. Now, that doesn't mean you may not have to pay for underbody coating and various dealer offered accessories which will be latched onto the cars before they can be sold, but they claim a commitment to MSRP.
 
If you think about it, it does make sense that they would do this, that they HAVE to do this. Honda may have gotten away with charging a surplus for the S2000, because they had a lot full of other cars that they could turn the disappointed buyers to..."look at this Civic SI."
 
For Mini, the Cooper is their car, their ONLY car, and if they make a reputation for fleecing the public at the introduction, it may turn off people who just might walk in off the street to test drive and buy one 2 or 3 years from now, after all the enthusiasts have snapped up their orders. If you step back and think long-term from the company's perspective, the best approach is to hold firm, and build a reputation for quality service, quality cars and fair trade. If they fail the customers early in the relationship, they will doom themselves. One of the reasons I belive that Saturn was as successful as it was when it hit the market was the introduction of some new attitudes into the marketplace. The concept of one price selling made buying a Saturn a low-stress approach as compared to other dealers. They sold alot of cars that way, and built a fairly loyal following, selling ONE model with a few variations. Now fast forward to today and I see some simularities to the Mini approach, they will not be BMW dealerships, but will retain some loose association with BMW (would be crazy not to), and they will do everything to build a solid base to remain viable for the next 20 years, not just the next two while they sell out every car made to a voracious special interest group of enthusiasts.
 
As for returning to the comparo: Mini, IMHO, has the most to offer of the three to most buyers. But then again, it is an entirely different thing than the Tibby or the RSX. Like comparing Akira and Four Weddings and a Funeral for best movie ever honors...how can you compare them? And neither earns that title! At under 20k, you don't get the best of anything in a new car, but you can get closer with a Mini than the RSX and Tibby, and that is why I am on the list.

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