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MINI Cooper, Hyundai Tiburon, Acura RSX, Subaru Impreza, Hatchback
Jun 25, 2002 (12:28 pm)
On honda's website, you can compare specifications for Honda models with those of other cars. Two of the categories that are compared are ALG (American Leasing Guide???)Residual Value After 36 Months and 60 months. I ran the numbers for RSX, Tib and MINI and here's what they say:
2002 Acura RSX coupe 54% after 36 mo, 42% after 60.
2003 Tiburon GT V6 48% after 36 mo, 33% after 60.
2002 MINI Cooper S. 61% after 36 mo, 48% after 60.
Of course no one can predict the future, but these numbers say that the Tiburon depreciates as much in 3 years as the MINI does in 5!
p.s. drivinisfun: Hyundai is Korean if you haven't noticed
p.p.s. Does anyone know where to research these resale values other than this honda site?
Jun 25, 2002 (1:25 pm)
The MINI projected resale values are incredibly. They match the residual values of Porsches and the like.
Jun 25, 2002 (1:26 pm)
But I think you need to pay a subscription fee.
Yeah I am aware about Hyundai being Korean. The new Tiburon is nice but not my cup of tea. It is a re-do of the 1990's Toyota Supra.
Jun 25, 2002 (7:55 pm)
>Japanese cars for the most part have good resale >values. But show me one Japanese car in the >North American market with the build quality, >handling, technology and halo factor of the >MINI...name ONE...
Jun 25, 2002 (8:36 pm)
Close. The WRX is a pretty respectable car, but take out the WRX moniker and it looks like any other made in Japan econobox.
Jun 25, 2002 (8:41 pm)
How is the Tiburon a 1990s Supra aspirant?!
#41 of 298 The new Tibby looks Viper-ish from the side
Jun 25, 2002 (9:49 pm)
and kinda Mustang-ish from the front-side look. When you look at a 2003 Tiburon from the side at an angle it looks for a sec like a Mustang, but not quite. It's it's own body design, really, and IMHO blows nicely away the other two in a heartbeat. A definite winner for Hyundai-a real car, not a novelty like the Mini or a put-to-sleep-mobile Acura. Flames, sports-car dudes? Naw-just enthusiasma!!! ;D
Jun 26, 2002 (1:33 am)
>Close. The WRX is a pretty respectable car, but >take out the WRX moniker and it looks like any >other made in Japan econobox.
You said, build quality, handling, technology, and halo factor. You didn't say anything about looks. But as far as the WRX looking like any other made in Japan econobox (I agree), I could say that the Mini is just another Beetle-esque flash in the pan.
#43 of 298 MINI is not a Beetle or a PT Cruiser
Jun 26, 2002 (5:51 am)
Both the Beetle and PT Cruiser were based highly on existing products. The Beetle doesn't look much like the original, is FWD, water cooled, and is really just a body shell on the existing Golf/Jetta platform. The PT Cruiser likewise does not copy an early 1900's Plymouth very well with FWD, engines and many other parts shared from the Neon, etc.; like the Beetle I think the PT Cruiser is much more style than substance.
In many ways the MINI is not the old Mini because it is too safe, too heavy, too expensive and handles too well but at least it isn't just a new face on old bits from the parts bin. I think it faithfully reproduces the charm of the original while giving it modern safety and convenience features on an entirely new platform.
I don't expect many people will cross-shop the Cooper, Tiburon and RSX. A few will cross shop them looking at performance alone but I think most people buy these cars for image and from there, each car has its own uniqueness and irrational likes and dislikes will have more to do with the choice than anything else. Some will love the MINI's retro styling, others will hate it. Some love the Japanese RSX, others think it is too bland. Some won't buy a Hyundai or Korean car for $1 and others think they are the coolest new car company on the block.
Jun 26, 2002 (3:20 pm)
MINI is the clear winner here - best value of the bunch, best handling by far due to shortness and huge tire-and-rim packages, and BMW suspension on a car costing $18K. Power is low with the cooper but it is geared to compensate for this. On the other hand, the S is a mini-rocket - it shames the Honda/Acura, which used to have the pocket rocket category sewn up. It develops most of its torque from 1500 rpm!! And it has more power per weight than the RSX at this price (RSX type S has more but costs a couple thou more as well).
Tiburon with the V-6 engine (the only one worth considering IMO) is much more of a cruiser - bigger, heavier, less good at handling than straight-line acceleration. It should not be compared to these other two cars, but to the eclipse GT instead.