Mini Cooper v. Hyundai Tiburon v. Acura RSX v. Subaru WRX - READ ONLY

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#105 of 298 Interesting posts. by kevin111

Aug 03, 2002 (12:30 am)

mgreene1 - I am impressed that you are able to buy a new car each year. I am unfortunately not in that fiancial state at this time, so if you want to have a WRX one year, a Mini S the next, then maybe a Mazda RX8, 350Z, or Mustang Cobra (or other sports car comming out?) in late 2003, great! Wish you the best of luck, and will hope you will post your analysis on each car as you own them. It will give a true owners perspective on the different vehicles.
 
iluvmysephia1 - I have no clue what you are talking about except that you really like the way the Tiburon looks. Hey, I agree. Hyundai did a great job with Pintafario designing it. A friend of mine really liked its looks, and was considering buying it, till reliability came into play.

#106 of 298 iluvmysephia by muffin_man

Aug 03, 2002 (2:43 am)

That was a great message, just because it was so weird.
 
If you turbocharged a Tiburon, you would have a $25000 Hyundai with no warranty. No thanks.

#107 of 298 Tib by rickrover

Aug 03, 2002 (11:44 am)

I was intrigued with the Tib when it first came out, even went in to the dealer to test drive one even tho I was totally happy with my turbo GTI. The main thing that turned me off was the interior - the dash looked like an early 80's Toyota design. The Tib is one on the nicest exterior designs on the road. I wouldn't give dependability a second thought - Hyundai has really turned their reputation around in the U.S. in a big way.

#108 of 298 rickrover - reliability issues with Hyundai by kevin111

Aug 03, 2002 (3:18 pm)

Hyundai has significantly improved in reliability, but is still not at the level of most car manufacturers. The Elantra (what the Tibi is based off of) received a below average rating on quality from CR.
 
I remember reading in the LA times that Hyundai was trying to get their reliability up to the levels of Toyota AND Ford. This raised my eyebrows since Ford has had some quality issues.

#109 of 298 "Hyundai derived" engine by treybrad1

Aug 03, 2002 (10:40 pm)

The Hyundai base engine architecture will (this has been confirmed in the press already) be used by ALL of DCX (this includes Mercedes). Each Group will design and engineer it's own unique models from this base architechure. Everything from a 80-90hp 1.1L to a fire breathing 300hp 2.5L is possible from the base engine.

#110 of 298 DaimlerChrysler and Mitsubishi to use Hyundai technology by treybrad1

Aug 03, 2002 (10:44 pm)

http://detnews.com/2002/autosinsider/0205/06/autos-482712.htm

SEOUL (Bloomberg) Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, said its new venture with DaimlerChrysler AG and Mitsubishi Motors Corp. will use an engine based on its technology and lead to royalty payments from the partners.

The automakers will each make 500,000 passenger car engines, based on Hyundai Motor's newly developed model. The 1.8 to 2.4- liter engines will be made at the automakers' own plants and be used for their own future models. The Korean automaker expects to receive royalty payments for its engine design starting in 2005.

The three automakers signed an accord yesterday to set up a venture for the design and development of four-cylinder gasoline engines. The venture, called Global Engine Alliance L.L.P., will be equally owned by the three companies. DaimlerChrysler owns 10.5 percent of Hyundai Motor and 37 percent of Mitsubishi Motors and is looking for ways to reduce costs and risks in developing cars.

"The agreement is a sign that Hyundai Motor has gained acceptance for its technology for engines used in smaller cars," said Lee Young Seog, who manages 500 billion won ($390 million) at Dongwon BNP Investment Trust Management Co. "The next step for Hyundai will be to raise its competitiveness for engines for bigger cars."

Hyundai Motor will begin using the engines for its own cars in March 2004, DaimlerChrysler will start using the engines in June 2005 and Mitsubishi Motors will begin using the engines in March 2006.

DaimlerChrysler and Hyundai Motor formed a venture last year to produce engines for commercial vehicles.

#111 of 298 read this by treybrad1

Aug 03, 2002 (11:00 pm)

http://www.motortrend.com/july02/shark/shark_f.html

#112 of 298 Hyundai by rickrover

Aug 05, 2002 (6:03 am)

I'm no fan of Japanese or Korean cars but I have to say Hyundai totally impresses me. I rented an XG 300L last year on a business trip and one of my collegues asked how I got my VP's approval to upgrade into a luxury class rental car. That XG 300L was amazing, very refined and totally luxurious near the level the interior fit and fininsh of my X5. The Sonata looks like a mini Jag - even better than some of Jaguars latest offerings IMO. If I needed a generic 4 door commuter type car I'd have Sonata on my compare list, I wouldn't even look at a Toyota or Nissan.

#113 of 298 mgreene O/T by fxs

Aug 05, 2002 (8:13 am)

How did your WRX experience compare to your S4's?

#114 of 298 Rickrover - you noticed that as well?? by kevin111

Aug 05, 2002 (9:10 am)

The Sonata's styling looks very similiar to the small Jag styling. It just seems funny to me how a <$20K car can look similiar to a >$40K car!
 
Hyundai is making great strides in product and quality line up. It is just they are not quite there yet.

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