Mini Cooper v. Hyundai Tiburon v. Acura RSX v. Subaru WRX - READ ONLY

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#1 of 298 Help me decide! by gildlb

Feb 26, 2002 (3:59 pm)

Trying to decide between these three. I've been leaning towards the Tiburon, but my wife wants the Rsx or Mini. Thanks ahead of time for any thoughts pro/cons on the matter.

#2 of 298 MINI vs Tiburon vs RSX by alf3

Feb 26, 2002 (5:35 pm)

I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone cross-shopping these three cars.

#3 of 298 alf3- Would you care to elaborate why you think people would not cross shop these three? by gildlb

Feb 26, 2002 (6:01 pm)

All three of them are sporty coupes. I've seen a number of messages here comparing one with the other. Just not all three in one forum. Also, to help explain where I'm coming from. It's actually my wife that wants the Mini Cooper or possible the RSX. I'm the one leaning towards the Tiburon, which I think looks the most masculine of the three. This will also be a 3rd vehicle for us. We want something fun and sporty to scoot around in, that's also within a reasonable price range.

#4 of 298 It may help any comparison if... by gotenks243

Feb 26, 2002 (7:20 pm)

It may help any comparison if you can give any more specifics on what you're looking at. I4 or V6 Tiburon? Mini Cooper or Cooper S? RSX or RSX Type-S? Manual or automatic?
 
0-60 acceleration-wise...
Tiburon V6 6spd= 8.0 (est in various magazines)
Mini Cooper 5spd= 8.5 (manufacturer-stated)
Mini Cooper S 6spd= 6.9 (manufacturer-stated)
RSX 5spd= not sure
RSX Type-S 6spd= 6-second range (what I've heard)
 
Handling wise, from all I've heard from magazine reviews, the Mini is a practical Go-kart, the RSX handles rather decently, and the Tiburon has a lot of body roll and understeer.
 
The Tiburon seems to be the slug of the group excluding the Mini Cooper, which can at least be had in a faster version. It also seems to be the worst handling. Depends if that's important to you.
 
Of course, the real way to tell what you really want is to test drive them and see which you like best, though that will most likely be hard to do with a Mini, at least for a while.
 
Good luck with whatever car you decide on.
 
Mike

#5 of 298 3rd car? Will this be a long term keeper? by harlequin1971

Feb 27, 2002 (10:22 am)

If you plan to keep the car for a long time (thinking of collectability here) I think the Mini has the best chance of being a collectors car, given the relative misicule numbers of them to be made and the history of the marque.
 
That won't make the Mini YOUR favorite car, or the best car for you, but it is a consideration to be made. The performance should be very good, the car will be rare enough that you will have scant opportunities to run into them in the wild (not many on the roads for a while).
 
Another big consideration is your location. Where do you live? I hope it is close to a new Mini dealership, or I might consider taking the Mini off your wishlist. You could be facing a long drive to the dealer for service, because only Mini dealers will perform warranty work and service.
 
As for the Tibby versus the Acura. I think the Acura has a better pedigree than Hyundai. You also will pay a bit of a premium for that fact. But, you should get it back down the road in resale values.
 
Since it is a third car, maybe the intrinsic financial value/cost of the car you choose may not be the most important factor, but I submit that the bottom line may be another reason the Mini takes first place, the Acura second, and the Tibby third (sorry Hyundai).
 
Good luck, and definately drive the cars before you decide.

#6 of 298 By process of elimination... by poorting

Feb 27, 2002 (8:17 pm)

Tiburon: This car has the same V6 as the Santa Fe. The one that keeps locking up with <10k miles. Mini: IF you can get one, you will pay MUCH more than MSRP. Only leaves one, which IMHO has the best mix of standard equipment/performance/price/reliability in its class.

#7 of 298 MUCH more than MSRP by harlequin1971

Feb 28, 2002 (8:35 am)

I hear this discussion alot. Until someone actually buys one here in the states, and gets bilked, I guess I am not sure what the arrangements are. It seems the dealerships will have the last call on how to handle the pricing. But let's look at it this way:
 
If you are opening a new dealership, with a highly sought after car, and want the dealership to be successful for years...what would you do?
 
I think the Mini dealers that are forward thinking will not be charging rediculous surtaxes on the cars. I have not be told anything one way or the other, but I expect to pay MSRP for my Mini, when I get it.
 
Acura will be the best combination of easy to get and reliability. But don't rule out the Mini because the dealers MAY charge a hefty fee. We don't even know what model he was looking at.

#8 of 298 The first Mini's will by fxashun

Feb 28, 2002 (11:07 am)

cost hella over MSRP. Aren't they selling them from existing BMW dealerships with a Mini add-on area? They are gonna be like the Bug was for the first two or so years.

#9 of 298 supply and demand by poorting

Feb 28, 2002 (11:12 am)

If dealers do not mark up the mini, you can be assured the secondary market will. Dealers are just as greedy as everyone else, and won't give up the extra profits on the few units they can get ahold of. You probably will pay sticker price for them, but included in sticker will be $5000 for special dealer-added alloy rims.

#10 of 298 performance by toyunki

Mar 04, 2002 (11:50 pm)

...We took it to our favorite mountain road with another Eight Great contestant for a head-to-head battle. The winner would make the list. And the Hyundai, after only a few minutes of flogging, was the clear victor.........
 
It(Tiburon) is now one of the best sport compacts for the money. Just don't tell the lawyers.

--Josh Jacquot
    
  http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/archives/features/feature01_0402c.shtml

TO ALL said Tib perform bad....

Compareson

2003 Tib V6GT ($18,399)
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 2.9 sec.
0-60 mph: 7.6 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.8 sec.
50-70 mph: 4.1 sec.
Quarter Mile: 15.6 sec. 88.8 mph

Handling
Slalom (700 ft): 68.2 mph
Lateral grip (200ft skidpad): .84g

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 122 ft.

RSX-S ($23,650)
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 3.0 sec.
0-60 mph: 6.9 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.5 sec.
50-70 mph: 3.4 sec.
Quarter Mile: 15.0 sec. 94.5 mph

Handling
Lateral Grip (200ft skidpad): 0.88 g
Slalom Speed (700ft slalom): 68.0 mph

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 133 ft
  Celica GT-S ($22,040)
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph: 2.9 sec
0-60 mph: 8.1 sec
30-50 mph: 3 sec
50-70 mph: 4.4 sec
Quarter Mile time: 15.8 sec
Quarter Mile speed: 88.6 mph
  Handling
Lateral Grip (200ft skidpad): 0.85g
Slalom Speed (700ft slalom): 69.9 mph

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 129 ft

Accordding to SportsCompactCar.....
Tib is just par or right betweem two best japaneses sports coupe....

Acceleration (1/4miles)

1. RSX-S 15 sec
2. Tiburon GT 15.6sec
3. Celica GTS 15.8sec

Handling

skid pad 200ft skid pad

1, RSX-S .88g
2, Celica GTS .85g
3, Tiburon GT .84g

Slalom (700ft slalom)

1. Celica GTS 69.9 mph
2. Tiburon GT 68.2 mph
3. RSX-S 68.0 mph

Braking(60-0)

1. Tiburon 122ft
2. Celica GTS 129ft
3. RSX-S 133ft

And If you adds UP the ranking all three cars tied with 8 points( add up the number of ranking)

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