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#331 of 786 I'm just happy to own two
Aug 31, 2002 (6:05 pm)
Guys.. Guys.. gentlemen.. I'm not a mechanical engineer so I don't know which of you is right. All I know is I own both the 2002 S500 with AMG Sport Package and the 2003 SL500 with the same. All the toys...distronic, tire pressure monitor, parktronic, keyless go, yada yada yada. I'm just happy and feel blessed to be the owner of two of the world's greatest examples of automotive engineering for any price. I also have the Lexus GS300 ( 1999 ) and I still get a kick out of driving that. Not as responsive as the Benz or BMW's ( I don't own a beemer ) but still a great car. I've thought of going out and buying the new BMW 745Li. For years on these boards I've argued with BMW owners and thought they were all on prozac to say " you have to drive one to understand " Well it turns out, they're right. My point is this. If one is fortunate enough to own any of these vehicles, anywhere in the world. Then you're blessed. Life is short. It's challenging, yet wonderful. No need to be right all the time, or to play the mine is bigger than yours game. If you drive anything over 80-100 k.. then you understand that it comes down to personal choice and what pleases you.. not what others think..
Aug 31, 2002 (8:33 pm)
You have my dream garage: an S and a SL, both sport. The onely thing I would change on both of them is the engine size. Twin-Turbo V12 in both of them.
Sep 16, 2002 (3:43 am)
If it does, I suspect it will give the Lexus SC430 a lot more competition. I've ridden in both the SL500 and SC430 and I would gladly trade down from a Lexus V8 to a Mercedes V6 in order to get the driving dynamics of the SL over the SC. At roughly the same price(?) it would be a no-brainer for me. For those that prefer supple luxury, the SC430 will probably still fare well.
#335 of 786 SL 55 MSRP Plus $50,000.00
Sep 16, 2002 (9:38 am)
What are comments regarding dealers and individuals increasing the MSRP by $50,000.00.
I would like to buy an SL55, however, refuse to get into a bidding war with dealers and individuals who order, wait for delivery and auction at higher prices. Please provide feedback on this topic.
Also, can anyone advise the planned number of units to be supplied?
#336 of 786 habitat1
Sep 16, 2002 (9:32 pm)
Yeah it would be nice to have a SL350, but MBUSA has been run away from selling anything S/SL-Class cars with only a "6" cylinder engine. I really don't understand why, the SL320 and the especially the S320 were good sellers here. It would give more people a chance to experience an S-Class (S350) and SL (SL350), those who don't have to have all the hp.
The SL55's here are going for 185K without even so much as an eyeblink from the salesman.
Sep 17, 2002 (3:37 am)
Unfortunately, I think you are at the mercy of capitalism when it comes to trying to get an SL55 at this late date. I have a business associate who is due to take delivery of one shortly at MSRP. But he has purchased several high end Mercedes in the past and immediately put up a deposit on the SL55 when word of it first came out (at least a year ago). He also owns a 2001 Ferrari 360 that he got at MSRP with a similar advanced deposit.
With high end limited production cars you have three choices: (1) get in 1-2 years in advance with a substantial deposit, (2) wait until they first arrive and pay a substantial premium, (3)or wait 1-2+ years for the hype and price to return to reality.
I was too slow to do (1), refused to do (2), so ended up doing (3) when purchasing a 2002 M5 this spring. I question those who paid a $20k premium to have the privalege of driving one 6-12 months in advance of me.
As for my associate, he has already been offered upwards of $40k cash not to take his SL55. His position is the same as with the 360. He doesn't want to make money by "flipping" a car, he just doesn't want to pay a premium to drive one.
#338 of 786 SL55 PREMIUM
Sep 17, 2002 (5:29 am)
EPN2,thanks for comment regarding capitalism. Understood. I too, am a capitalist and am following your strategy. Just this past week the dealer had two new units received, marked "SOLD" and said he would call me after negotiations were
completed on trade-in with the customers who had ordered and placed deposits. In August the dealer in Atlantic City had five units on the lot asking a $10,000.00 premium. I looked at him and turned around and left. These were SL 500s.
More of us in the market need to exercise our power and refuse the dealer and criticize the manufacturer.
#339 of 786 You gentlemen are right
Sep 17, 2002 (5:48 pm)
I too paid a permium of 10k over sticker for my SL500. Something I swore in the past that I'd never do. ( Never say never huh ? )As I said before, I have all the toys, Distronic, Keyless go, Parktronic, tire pressure monitor, everything except the panoramic roof and opted not to get the phone installed since I already have one in my S500 and really don't think it will be able to be heard clearly with the roof down. I paid 112,000 for it. The only solace I had was when I went back up to the dealership last week when I had nothing better to do and saw a black base model that someone else paid 114,000 for and sold it immediately for 130,000 to someone in Palm Beach Fl... it was a little comforting.. but not much. I enjoy the car immensely and I took out my one pet peave on the dealer customer service survey that Mercedes sent me. I know and understand capitalism well. I'm a capitalist myself.. ah the heck with it.. this car is wonderful.. I haven't had this much fun since my dad bought me my first electric Tyco train set when I was 6 years old.. lol. If you can get one.. it's worth it.. I don't think I'd pay more than 10 over sticker ( they were asking 15k over so I guess I did get a discount ? )... but like I said.. I'm happier than a pig in slop with this car..
Sep 17, 2002 (6:06 pm)
It's the dealer thats at fault not the manufacturer. MB really can't do anything about what a dealer charges.