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#11 of 766 toyotas1... by lovemyclk Mar 06, 2002 (2:08 pm)
Why troll here when your comments can actually impress others on a Toyota board? Design-wise, the C70 Coupe is a good styling exercise... especially for Volvo. But, it "ain't no Mercedes!"   When you get the opportunity to see the new CLK in an upcoming show and can experience the design in 3-D, then offer your thoughts...
#12 of 766 by imaram Mar 06, 2002 (2:34 pm)
Ya know, as a confirmed, long time Benz-o-phile, it really chaps my hide when a Benz-twit sticks his nose up in the air and spews something stupid like "it ain't no Mercedes."   The cars are good enough to stand on their own merits and handle the criticism without flinching. Maybe the owners should be as well.
#13 of 766 speaking of chapping hides... by lovemyclk Mar 06, 2002 (3:32 pm)
It is equally annoying when someone can't discern the difference between seriousness and jest. The little "it ain't no mercedes" quip is totally in jest, as so many supporters of other marques without much of a definable history slam MB at any turn. Sorry you took it personally the wrong way.   I'm the 1st to offer praise to any other marque for values they do well... including the Volvo C70, which our Toyota friend mentioned in a negative connotation relative to the new CLK. I even see the value and uniqueness of the new SC430. Heck of a vehicle, but more my wife's cup of tea than my own. Take a pill and relax...
#14 of 766 by imaram Mar 06, 2002 (3:48 pm)
Oh yeah, totally in jest. Great save...NOT. Good try, though.   "I even see the value and uniqueness of the new SC430."   You see a lot more than I; I only caught the "uniqueness". While I hardly think the C70 is trying in any way to be a Mercedes, or vice-versa, I can't say the same of the SC430. Now, if you'd said the SC "ain't no Mercedes," I'd just have to sit back and nod agreement in silence.   Oh, and I don't use pills. Bottle of Absolut in the freezer seems to work just fine. Matter of fact, I think I'll head that-a-way right now!
#15 of 766 2003 SL500 Launch Edition by jstyle Mar 06, 2002 (5:39 pm)
This afternoon I saw at my dealer the 2003 SL500 Lauch Edition. They parked it right next to a previous generation. Very nice redesign. I got a chance to sit in play with some of the controls and watch that amazing top. A very beautiful car. The color is a very unusual silver with a blackish interior. I like the wood inlaid steering wheel and the thin five spoke wheels. Only the color of the tail lights bother me. I wish they had much more of a jewel effect. It is a designo addition. Close to $10K over list. Plus the dealer mark up they are asking $110,000 for the car.
#16 of 766 by revdrluv Mar 06, 2002 (8:16 pm)
I think, as silly as they are, emoticons are the best solution to avoiding misunderstanding in online forums. Since we can't hear the tone of voice in your head it is a way of letting us know what you mean.   For Example...   You guys are #$%!** petty little bitches.   May seem like I am being an A-hole, but...   You guys are #$%!** petty little bitches. ;D hahahaha   is obviously a light hearted little jest... well maybe not.   You get the point anyway.
#17 of 766 Hey, lovemyclk.... by toyotas1 Mar 07, 2002 (5:23 am)
it doesn't take many pictures (or dimensions) to se that Mercedes is still mystified by the legendary design of the original SC400. The current CLK pales in comparison, and the new one is a stagger backwards.......and inaram...... no the SC430 may not be a Mercedes, it might be better.......
#18 of 766 Bwaaahahahahaha by v12power Mar 07, 2002 (6:07 am)
The CLK is one of the best looking cars on the road. Since when has MB taken styling cues from Toyota, er, Lexus? The LS is a total S-class rip off, the fools didn't even bother to copy the latest model, they copied a discontinued one. Imitation is the most serious form of flattery. MB remains, the standard of the world.   Now you think the SC430 is a better car than the '03 SL500? or was it the CLK430? Either way you have done nothing more than make yourself look foolish by suggesting that. the SC is a boutique car, very pretty (to some eyes), but connnot hope to compete against the SL500. The CLK is not a good comparison as it has real rear seats unlike the SC. Either way the MBs stomp the Toyota IMO.
#19 of 766 toyotas1 by merc1 Mar 07, 2002 (8:02 am)
Normally I don't get into answering your every post, but if you think the SC400 of the past has anything to do with the current CLK, you're breathing fumes from Toyota. Yes I did like the 1992-1996 SC400, but after 1996 they completely ruined the car in typical Japanese fashion. The Japanese in general are the biggest copiers in the world and Lexus is the worst offender. If anything was copied it was Lexus who did the copying. BTW, the SC430 isn't anywhere near being on the same level as the SL500, yet alone "better". And Automobile picked the CLK430 Cabrio over the SC430 also a few months back, since you want to go there.   M
#20 of 766 by imaram Mar 07, 2002 (8:04 am)
Have to agree with v12 on the new SC (well, maybe not the "foolish" part), but hey, you probably already knew that. The old SC was a seriously beautiful car. I think the main reason for its success was that it was never aimed directly at another auto maker, but a fresh design calculated to stand on its own. The new SC is a shot fired directly at Mercedes, IMO, and as such, misses.   I think Lexus has other weapons that are more devastating. Clearly, no one has been able to tap into the (again, stand alone) design qulities of the GS. I believe the new 7-series is aping (unsuccessfully) some of its idiosyncracies. And if BMW isn't frightened at all by the IS300, well, they should be.   As far as the SL500 goes, retractable hard tops seem to be the lux coupe oyster just now, though I've never cared that much for the concept. The SL accomplishes everything that the SC tried to, but with style, grace and just plain "oomph" that the SC, in its current iteration can't hope to match.   The problem here is commenting on performance without having driven the SL. So, at this point, I'll just have to say I'd much rather have the SL in my garage, so that I can come out late at night and just stare at it, than the SC. By a long shot.   Price. I think it's kind of silly to pay a premium for first shot at this little beauty. I've never really understood the "first one on the block" attitude, when it comes to paying extra. Every time I see some new model commanding premiums (premia?), I'm reminded of the introduction of the digital watch. Remember those guys who spent $400 bucks for the first Pulsar watches? But that's just me.

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