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Oct 04, 2002 (7:18 pm)
As I like to say; the 444 would sure be a very inviting and fun car to have.
Oct 04, 2002 (7:26 pm)
Also, it's been mentioned many times that the steering on old Volvos was very heavy; it's also obvious there was no power assist in those days. But, I'm assuming their steering was much quicker and more precise than, say, an old Buick or Mercury?
Oct 04, 2002 (7:32 pm)
I think, if I recall correctly, that the 444 and 544 steering wasn't very heavy at all. It's when the cars got heavier and the tires got fatter, like in the 140 series, that Volvos started to feel like locomotives. I guess the 240 was the first with power steering? A Volvo 140, when parking, steers like a 1930s American car.
Oct 04, 2002 (7:38 pm)
Yes, the 240 was the first with power steering, but they, and the following 740s/940s do steer like old American cars; very heavy and trucklike. No fun at all and very disappointing. In comparison, my 850 steers very precisely, like a Miata.
Oct 04, 2002 (11:04 pm)
WEll, the joke back then in the 70s and 80s was that "Volvo built cars for people who hated cars but needed to drive somewhere".
Oct 07, 2002 (2:48 pm)
There were 140's and 160's with Power Steering also. THe 140's were rare, though.
Oct 07, 2002 (2:49 pm)
This engine didn't have enough HP or torque to hurt even that crank.
Nov 25, 2002 (8:35 am)
Want the complete, entire story on Irv and his car? There's an excellent article about him in the Dec. issue of Classic & Sports Car, a great British publication I read on occasion. Here are a couple of Irv quotes from that article:
"I've paid for all my parts, all my gasoline, all my servicing: no discounts."
"The Smiths gauges, I've probably had repaired or replaced numerous times."
"The transmission seals and 3rd gear synchro have been replaced and the overdrive has been stripped and clean, but that's all."
Nov 25, 2002 (7:28 pm)
Well, I've stripped down those overdrives and it's tough! The quote makes it sound like a 20 minute job but it's a bear to do.
The Smiths gauges on a Volvo P1800 are a very bad joke.
Nov 27, 2002 (3:41 pm)
Per many comments made on this board about the safety of old cars, is a '66 Volvo still a safe automobile, or at least really safe compared to many other cars of that same year?