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Re: 2000 Montana (pain) problems [fivestar3] by collensdad
Jun 22, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: fivestar3 (Jun 22, 2008 2:30 pm)

I have the Venture fromm 2000. I just love it. the door and the battery thing I had/have. The battery was replaced, but lasted one winter, I took it back to Wal Mart and they replaced it free. The connections seemed to go bad after 7 years. I cannot unlock the doors from the drivers side, but my remote still works fine. I found the walmart tires i got last december, 2007 to be the best ones yet. I had trouble with the out of balance feeling before, but the new tires are better than any I have had. So quiet it blows me away. I had my brakes done and the place put on crap pads. I'll go back to the ceramic ones next year. I am getting about 22 MPG with the van, and I am tickled pink.(5 star) let me know if I can offer any advice, I think mast of the repairs can be done easily and cheaply.
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Re: 2000 Montana (pain) problems [collensdad] by fivestar3
Jun 22, 2008 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: collensdad (Jun 22, 2008 6:20 pm)

collensdad:
 
Thanks for the info. I am on the 5th battery in the Montana, two from Farm & Fleet and three from Wally World. I find it very hard to believe all these batteries were poorly manufactured. With the history of the "Triplets" electrical problems I am becoming convinced there is a short taking place (or high resistance) at some point in the wiring scheme, which drains the battery prematurely. Obviously during winter months it takes more amperage to crank the engine over, which would explain why most battery trouble takes place then.
I gave up on Wally World tires after having two sets that developed problems. The present tires are Cooper brand and up to now have been very good tires.
 
Your comment about going back to Ceramic Brake Pads is a wise one, these next pads I install on a vehicle will be ceramic, but they sure won't be going on any Montana of mine as I hope to get rid of this one by fall, and NEVER own another. Hopefully I'll be able to find an affordable replacement that I can tow my "HI-Low" travel trailer with and get 22 to 28 mpg, Most likely I'll be checking out the "rice burners" after this last experience.
 
Thanks for the input collensdad.
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Re: 2000 Montana (pain) problems [fivestar3] by jhirneisen
Jun 23, 2008 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: fivestar3 (Jun 22, 2008 2:30 pm)

Yes, this GM product has MANY mechanical and electrical problems.
Wish I could have given you better news.....
Jack
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Re: 00 Silo Coolant system pressure [jhirneisen] by jhirneisen
Jun 23, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: jhirneisen (Apr 09, 2008 6:17 pm)

Last week I had someone ask me how I liked my 1999 Pontiac Montana.
My answer was: handles well, reasonably good gas mileage, good seating arrangements........horrible reliability and constant problems.
Very frustrating considering that I went to GMI (General Motors Institute), worked for GM and EDS, consulted for GM at their Tech Center, helped modernize their plants and engineering centers, my wife retired from GM with 32 years at their Tech Center, my wife's father was a GM Director, my father retired from GM with 30 years as a tool & die maker, and my uncle was director of the GM die program! My friends and I who loved cars and trucks and who worked at GM saw the problems, but could not make GM understand the words "Quality and Long Term Investment".
Frustrating!!!
Jack
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Re: Montana Electrical Question [chases] by jimmyk3
Jul 15, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: chases (Jun 09, 2008 1:17 pm)

I have a 1999 Montana with 175000 miles. We have had several things to go wrong but thought they were just with age. I didn't realize they were the trend until I found this site today!
 
My LCD gauge has also went out. I took the overhead compartment apart found the computer board and just put it back in, I have noticed if I tap on it sometimes it will light up and go back out.
 
Also, our rear air stopped working two years ago. I was told to fix it I would have to take the entire back panel off but realized this week-end the motor is right behind the built in compressor. I whacked it with the handle of a screw driver and it is still working!!!
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Sticky Thermostat by jhirneisen
Oct 05, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Looks like I have a sticky Thermostat on my 1999 Pontiac Montana.
Has anyone replaced one on GM's three sister's mini-vans?
Is it a difficult task?
Thanks,
Jack in Colorado
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Re: Update on Message #713 Bad Bad Reliability [peteragold] by jhirneisen
Oct 05, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: peteragold (Jan 09, 2004 3:06 pm)

I hope this is not to late....GM has agreed to a leaky gasket settlement.
See this web-site...
http://www.dexcoolsettlement.com/
 
Jack...in Colorado
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Re: Sticky Thermostat [jhirneisen] by 442dude
Oct 05, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: jhirneisen (Oct 05, 2008 10:03 am)

Assuming that the 1999 and 2000 are the same, its not a hard job...a little time consuming. There are 2 thoughts on how to do it:
 
1 - to get to it you have to remove the exhaust crossover pipe to get to the bolts, the bolts are pretty tough to get off, use lots of penetrating oil and be patient.
 
2 - you work around them.
 
Personally, I took the exhaust crossover off when I did it. Once its off you have plenty of room to get it off and replace it. I've read that some people were able to take the bolts off the the thermostat housing without taking the crossover off - whatever works for you and the tools that you have...
 
Make sure you bleed the air out of the system when you refill it - there are 2 bleed screws, one over by the water pump and 1 closer to the thermostat...open them both to bleed the air out of the system while you refill it.
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Re: Sticky Thermostat [jhirneisen] by 55peahuller
Oct 06, 2008 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: jhirneisen (Oct 05, 2008 10:03 am)

I had a sticky thermostat on my 2000 Venture a few years back. Like 442 dude said, it will take some time to fix. I did it by trying to work around the exhaust cross over pipe. It took me 10 hours and alot of scrapped skin. It only has the 2 bolts holding it on but it's hard to get your hand in there, to keep from loosing everything. You might try what 442 dude did. Good luck.
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Re: Sticky Thermostat [442dude] by jhirneisen
Oct 12, 2008 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: 442dude (Oct 05, 2008 11:01 am)

I don't give up easy, but this job was too much!!! I could not get to 1 of the 2 rear heat shield bolts that cover the exhaust croossover pipe. So I could not get to the lower water pump bolt. I plan to roll this piece of junk off of Pikes Peak! But to get it there I need to put it all back together. During disassembly of the air duct, throttle body, all plugs and wires, etc....I popped out a tube that is next to the Intake Air Temperature Sensor (IATS) which is located in the air intake duct. I plugged it back into the duct (next to the IATS) but can't see where to plug in the other end...it's on the other side of the engine. The tube is about 12 inches long...maybe 5/8 inches in diameter (see page 6-10, figures 7.2 and 7.3 in the GM Venture/Silhouette/Montana Haynes Repair Manual). Any ideas?
Jack

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