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Chevrolet Venture, Pontiac Montana, Oldsmobile Silhouette, Van
#1110 of 1617 blown head gasket
Apr 05, 2005 (7:47 pm)
my 2001 silhouette with 67K miles on it apparently has a blown head gasket? the bad red light came on and the gauge was in the red. stopped the car, waited 10 minutes, turned car back on with heater on full blast (light did not come back on and gauge was in normal ranges) to drive the last 1 mile home. next morning had van towed to shop.
from reading i am doing online is it reasonable to think that perhaps this could be related to the intake thing that people have issues with? is there any possibility of getting oldsmobile/dealer to cover under the after warranty assistance or a secret warranty program? if you have any tips on how to present this to the service guy, please help! they have my van, but have not yet begun to do any work on it.
#1111 of 1617 Re: Headlights [billw]
Apr 06, 2005 (2:14 am)
This subject was on the board a long time ago and people took them to the dealer to get disconnected and so only worked manually.
As info we also have a Jetta and Suzuki SL7 and both have headlights on all the time as DRL
#1112 of 1617 Ebay headlights
Apr 06, 2005 (2:51 pm)
Thanks for the idea of looking on Ebay for the van headlights. My '98 Olds with 118,000 miles has its lights looking pretty crappy, yellow plastic, sandblasted from road debris, and they leak water. My past effort of scraping off the hard adheisive, cleaning and gooping them back together worked for a few years but they are not worth cleaning anymore with the lens messed anyway. The guy wanted $15 (each!) for shipping but it was still a lot cheaper than dealer.
#1113 of 1617 Re: alien10 [vanman1] "Did GM ever fix this on the 3.4 engines?"
Apr 06, 2005 (6:36 pm)
about the intake gasket....is there a VIN cutoff where they switched from the old to the new? Or, is there a way to determine the date a van was manufactured? I hear the switch was made in may of 03, but I can't confirm if this is true
We're looking at an 03 Montana with about 30K
short of replacing the gasket, is there any type of additive that can slow or stop the deterioration of the gasket?
#1114 of 1617 Re: Headlights [billw]
Apr 07, 2005 (3:46 am)
If I push the e-brake down a click or two before turning on the ignition, my 98 Montana lights don't come on.
#1115 of 1617 "Did GM ever fix this on the 3.4 engines?"
Apr 07, 2005 (4:21 am)
Bulletin 03-06-01-010 was first issued in March 2003 however there isn't any production info. The bulletin detailed the new gasket p/n and fastener specs. The way it was written it appears to apply to all 2003 Montana's without regard to VIN.
Not aware of any "additive" to slow the deterioration. The new gasket design has reinforced edges at the water passages and the new bolts have thread-lock applied. The later suggests the OE bolts may have loosened over time.
Apr 07, 2005 (11:19 am)
I don't know but I do know that they were modified / fixed at some point.
Does the 2003 have a 5 year powertrain or a purchased extended warranty?
#1118 of 1617 update on 03 montana
Apr 07, 2005 (7:49 pm)
ok, I went to check out the 03 Montana tonight. it's in outstanding condition, just like new...and it hasn't even been detailed yet. very sharp looking white on grey with alloy wheels
build date is 10/02. According to carfax, the warranty is 3/36. Interestingly enough, the van originated in Quebec for it's first 17k miles and then was imported to the US. Very strange since they were telling me it was a one owner vehicle....and from what I can tell this guy has lived in my town all his life. more on this later.
The dealer is about 30 miles away from my home. For whatever reason, they were like "take it home to show your wife, make sure she approves" and I don't have to take it back till Saturday. Nice extended test drive.
My concern is that I smelled coolant when I arrived at home. with 30000 miles on the vehicle, I'm wondering if I can make this work to my advantage. I'm going to take it to my local Pontiac dealer and see if they can diagnose (or probably mis diagnose) the source of the smell. If it turns out to be the gasket, and they will cover it under warranty then Yeah!! And, since the price isn't set in stone yet, I can spin it with the selling dealer to get another 5-800 bucks off the price. Any thoughts on how to approach this?
Back to the van originating in Quebec..is there anything difference between a van sold in Canada and one that is sold in the states?? (emissions, anything?)
I'm trading a 93 silhouette. It's pretty rough around the edges. tranny is on it's last leg, AC doesn't work (110psi on the low side of the compressor), rotors are warped, dr side front wheel bearing needs replaced, air compressor is gone, mysterious disappearing coolant, leaks oil. 112K miles paid $1900 2 years ago, they offered my $1500
they're asking $13800 for the Montana. Not great, but seems to be consistent with private sellers prices and about anything I've seen on the net for one of the triplets (actually wanted another Silo, but they seem to fetch premium prices)
any advice on how to get them down on their price? I haven't negotiated or even discussed price much yet.
#1119 of 1617 Re: update on 03 montana [redly_one]
Apr 08, 2005 (10:29 pm)
took the 03 montana to my local dealer today.
easy cheesy, they looked it over and said they'd replace the lower intake gasket and water pump under warranty, no cost.
GOD I LOVE THIS VAN
took it on a 150 mile trek tonight, filled the back up with 4x8 peices of fencing and posts for the back yard. I filled up the gas tank before I left, added a little Lucus fuel system cleaner, and the needle didn't even budge off F(ull).
I had an 02 Odyssey, then an 03 Silhouette, then the ass fell out of our personal economy, so we bought the 93 Silhouette for cash. I always relate vehicle discussions back to the Honda, though, as it is perceived as the "ultimate". Loved that van too, don't get me wrong. sure it had 240HP, but you had to rev the hell out of it to really feel it, and it was noisy as hell at 75MPH. Can't say it really was a memorable difference relavtive to the 03 Silo, which we also loved. I really think, if you buy used, maybe even new if you hit the incentives right, you come out ahead by buying a GM (at least the pre 05 non "truck looking vans").
anyway, we'll be signing the papers today (sat)