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#1068 of 1617 Montana Transmission gone at 35,000 miles - out of time for warranty.
Mar 10, 2005 (4:14 pm)
My 2000 Pontiac Montana has been decent vehicle, up until lately. Apparently, these folks know how to build a vehicle to start failing soon after the warranty expires.
With only 35,000 (gentle) miles, my transmission has started slipping. I took it into the shop last week and was told that a rebuild was necessary ($2,500.00). I called the local Pontiac dealer and was told that since my warranty had expired (out of time), I was out of luck. I guess it goes to show that if you plan on buying a GM, you'd better invest in an extended warranty.
We went deep into debt to buy this van, hoping that it would offer reliable transportation for our family for years to come. I'd expect a small repair here and there, but loosing the transmission at 35,000 miles wasn't something we were expecting.
Hopefully, GM will cave to the competitionís push for better warranties and either improve their quality, or extend their warranties.
Any advice or help would be appreciated.
#1069 of 1617 Re: 2001 Montana showing age [joegriffitts]
Mar 10, 2005 (5:37 pm)
I had a very similar problem with my 01 silhouette. It turns out I had a short that melted a ground pin in my drivers side tail light plug. I cleaned it up and fixed the connector and all of my "gremlins" went away. Hope that helps.
#1070 of 1617 Re: Montana Transmission gone at 35,000 miles - out of time for warranty. [kyleo]
Mar 10, 2005 (5:40 pm)
My 01 silhouette had a similar problem. I changed the tranny filter and it went away. Maybe that will work for you.
#1071 of 1617 Re: Rear wiper washer [kkollwitz]
Mar 10, 2005 (5:51 pm)
I had the same problem and it turns out the hose going to the rear separated at the pump. Look at the base of the fluid tank for a rubber tube going to the rear. Mine was dangling and I just had to re-attach it.
#1072 of 1617 Re: Montana Transmission gone at 35,000 miles - out of time for warranty. [kyleo]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Mar 10, 2005 (7:17 pm)
After all these comments about possible causes, I think you need a second opinion from an independent mechanic/transmission shop or a different dealer.
#1073 of 1617 RE: wiper hose for rear
Mar 11, 2005 (8:13 am)
RE: the hose for the rear comes out the bottom
I think the place you reconnect this is 1/2 way up the tank on the rear washer motor. Mine also fell off - suggest a small zip-tie or thin wire that can be "bread bag twisted" around the hose on the connector.
I know the washing fluid tank has two motors on my '98, one about 1/2 way up and the other at the base. The one 1/2 way up is the rear, so you won't jepordize your critical front windscreen viewing my over-using the rear - so keep it full.
#1074 of 1617 35 k transmission
Mar 11, 2005 (8:20 am)
Sorry you are having trouble. A transmission is about the worst thing besides an accident that could happen to a vehicle because of the cost to fix. BUT - the price the dealer quoted seems a bit high, I know my local shop would likely beat that although thank gosh this vehicle has not needed any of that work. Try a good local transmission shop. The one near my house is where the police and county vehicles get taken, the guy knows his stuff.
I asked about Honda, Chrysler, Ford, he laughed. He said "I see 'em ALL" - "eventually, they will all fail".
GM has quite a good reputation for building a great transmission, so the early problems you are having are quite abnormal.
Things to check -
* fluid level, engine running in park, warm, level
* if level is low, look for leaks
* change filter and fluid as suggested, see if that helps. Use correct fluid.
Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
#1075 of 1617 Re: Montana Transmission gone at 35,000 miles - out of time for warranty. [kyleo]
Mar 11, 2005 (8:52 am)
Make sure that the trans fluid level is in the xxxxx'ed area of the dip stick. You must drive your van for at least several miles, with fluid warm to the touch, then check on a level surface with the engine running with trans in "park" and emergency brake set. Your owners book should have a section on how to check the transmission fluid. Follow the instructions to the letter.
To little fluid (at least 1/2" below add mark} will cause slippage or no car movement (racing engine). Too much fluid (more than 1/4" above full mark) will cause air bubbles or foam in the trans fluid which will cause your trans to slip or shift erratically.
If fluid level is correct, then I also suggest getting a trans fluid flush/change.
If the previous steps don't resolve your problem, then take your Montana in for a second opinion.
I had recent bad experience's with my once trusted neighborhood mechanic;
Last year I had many engine misfires in cylinder 4 on my 97 Buick Lesabre. After doing diagnostics my mechanic said that I needed a new engine at about $2500. Hoping that something else was causing the misfire diagnostic code, I did a lot of research on the internet and decided that there was a good chance that #4 fuel injector was clogged. Had it replaced at Pep Boys, they where the cheapest at $180, and problem was fixed.
This year I noticed that the starter was skipping/pausing when starting my Olds Silhouette. Mechanic said that I needed starter to be replace for about $350, so I decided to try and do it myself. First step is to disconnect battery cable which I found to be a little loose, so I tightened it and problem is now fixed.
#1076 of 1617 kyleo / transmissions
Mar 11, 2005 (9:31 am)
We bought an 04 Montana and it came with a 5 year power train warranty on it and I think the new GM vans do also. So far we love the van. Transmission failure on GM vehicles is low as they do build good ones in general. I would keep up the pressure on GM to fix it though, you never know what a letter to head office might do. Just a thought.
#1077 of 1617 Re: Montana Transmission gone at 35,000 miles - out of time for warranty. [steve_]
Mar 11, 2005 (10:45 am)
Thanks for the responses! The shop I took it to replaced the filter and fluid. They also found a large amount of metal in the pan. I drove it unil...
On the way home last night, the transmission went out. There was a bit of shuddering, then slight grinding noise, then nothing. Luckily, I was able to coast into a parking space. GM wants $2,500.00 for a new one. (Sigh) With such low miles, I wonder if Pontiac is willing to help out a loyal owner?