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2005 Models by okg0
Apr 16, 2004 (7:01 pm)
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Does anyone know if there are any planned improvements or new feaures on the 2005 Touareg models? Like an improved NAV system?
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Towing without Adjustable Suspension by mike3
Apr 19, 2004 (9:18 am)
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I'm very interested in purchasing a VW Tourage. I two a 22ft SeaRay Bowrider that weighs approx 4200lbs (an addition 1500lbs for the trailer). I've read a couple of really good reviews about the Touareg's towing capabilities but both of towing tests were conducted on vehicles with the adjustable suspension. I don't think I want the adjustable suspension so I was wondering if any body has any experiences to share on how the vehicle the standard suspension handles when towing heavy loads.
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Re: Towing without Adjustable Suspension [mike3 #1837] by panzer
Apr 20, 2004 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: mike3 (Apr 19, 2004 9:18 am)

I haven't towed with my Touareg yet, but I have the air suspension and I'm glad I went for it. The auto ride is much better than the stock ride. It seems like if you have a choice and want the best towing performance, you want air to level the car, etc. On the other hand, the truck handles fine without the air, so it should tow loads well, within its capability.
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Re: Towing without Adjustable Suspension by spockcat
Apr 21, 2004 (6:58 am)
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While most boat trailers have relatively low tongue weights, you will find that the air suspension is better for towing as it automatically levels the car so you will not get any rear end sag if you do have a heavy tongue weight.
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A tale of four test drives. . . by markcincinnati
Apr 26, 2004 (12:31 pm)
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. . .back to back to back to back:
 
V6 Cayenne, V8 Cayenne, V6 Touareg, V8 Touareg.
 
Price no object:
 
V6 Cayenne OK, V8 Cayenne, O-Wow, V6 Touareg OK-, V8 Touareg O-Wow.
 
Price an object, order of price/preference:
 
V6 Cayenne (the bargain of the bunch on price alone)
 
V8 Touareg (the bargain of the bunch on price+performance/content)
 
V8 Cayenne (great ride, but where is the additional $14,800?)
 
V6 Touareg (overpriced, underpowered, unwanted, unwise and should be discontinued, in any town where there is also a Porsche dealership).
 
And, the winner by $14,800 plus a nicer interior = Touareg V8 cranked to about $50,000 MSRP.
 
And, the loser, by virtue of lackluster performance and similar price point when compared to the slightly more powerful and higher contented Cayenne V6 = Touareg V6 cranked to about $42,000 MSRP.
 
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Now, hold on there before you castigate me:
 
These are opinions, and these are ONLY my opinions -- your opinion is no less valuable.
 
The downside of the Cayenne: no telematics at any price.
 
The upside of the Cayenne: maintenance is included in the price.
 
The downside of the V6 Touareg, besides the above?: First 50,000 minimum maintenance requirements ~ $2,200 (slightly higher for the V8).
 
Why anyone who doesn't care about On*Star would even consider a Touareg V6 when the Cayenne is ~ the same price and has no nickle and diming future (the maintenance) and has mo' power -- beats me.
 
Why anyone would consider the $64,800 Cayenne (which does not include sat nav) when compared to the $50,000 Touareg (which does include sat nav and some other nice stuff that the Cayenne lacks at that price point [$64,800]) -- beats me.
 
Now, if you could only get the V8 Touareg with the maintenance costs built into the sticker (and perhaps discounted since they would be prepaid).
 
Color me impressed with VW.
 
P.S. also test drove an R32 - wheeeeeeeeeee!
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Re: A tale of four test drives. . . [markcincinnati #1840] by rowee
Apr 30, 2004 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 26, 2004 12:31 pm)

"Down side of the v6..." I would add one more very important issue, ignored for some reason by the u.s. consumer; The engine! Yes, this v6 engine known to the Europeans as a winner on the audi/VW range is preforming poorly when merged with the T-Reg. It seems the Torque is low and the car is sluggish to say the least. The Europeans are ignoring the v6 version and opting for the v8. Looking at the great burgin prices of the v8 in the u.s. market, I fail to understand any body choosing the infiriore v6.
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NOT MY T-REG by dane100
Apr 30, 2004 (8:09 am)
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I seem to be driving a different car. I have a V6 which I purchased in late Feb. It now has 3500 miles. Last tank I got 19.6 miles driving in Mpls. freeway rush hour traffic.(Miles driven divided by gallons purchased) I have had no problems with car at all. Mileage improved when I decided to drive car rather than have it drive me. You have to use Tac and transmission, The vehicle becomes a lot more fun. I got poor mileage on trip to door county home, but I was only car on township roads driving through 10-12 inch drirfts in a 40 mile ahour wind, mileage dropped to 9. I also own 76 911 targa,2000 saab 9-3 a 93 ranger 4x4(120k) should get rid of it but it just keeps running.
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Re: A tale of four test drives. . . [markcincinnati #1840] by highender
Apr 30, 2004 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 26, 2004 12:31 pm)

mark: can you enlighten me as to what telematics are and what is included on the toareg in terms of telematics ?
 
also, where did you get the info that service and maintenance was included in the Cayenne ? I have one, but I thought we had to pay...
 
thanks.....
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Re: A tale of four test drives. . . [highender #1844] by markcincinnati
Apr 30, 2004 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: highender (Apr 30, 2004 9:09 am)

Telematics -- simply and somewhat incompletely put = On*star.
 
The world market for vehicle telematics solutions for professional and consumer markets is estimated today at $5 billion, with annual growth rates forecasted at 50% . Every day, around the world, more than 20,000 vehicles are fitted with a telematics system.
 
The official def:
 
Telematics -
 
Refers to the broad industry related to using computers in concert with telecommunications systems. This includes dial-up service to the Internet as well as all types of networks that rely on a telecommunications system to transport data.
 
The term has evolved to refer to systems used in automobiles that combine wireless communication with GPS tracking. The term is further evolving to include a wide range of telecommunication functions that originate or end inside automobiles.
 
I own a company that provides wireless services to field sales force people, so it is an occupational hazard to just refer to On*star by its generic name -- however, on the ceiling of my Audi allroad there is a panel that says "Audi Telematics" and has a blue On*star button.
 
I use my Audi telematics to access stock reports, audio email (my email is read to me by the system (text only), and traffic and weather. My system also allows me to simply say the word "dial 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 dial" to make outbound calls hands and eyes free -- all of this is part of the integrated phone, Internet, Services and GPS sat nav system that came with the car (for a price).
 
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On the other matter, the dealer told me that maint would be included with my new Cayenne. . .if I am wrong, I apologize and stand corrected.
 
Frankly, after the VW dealer told me that my scheduled maintenance for a V8 Touareg for the first 40,000 was about $2,200, and that it only included incidentals for the first year ($80 wiper blades and wheel alignments are "free" for this period only, unlike the Audi and BMW which offer unlimited free maintenance of such items more or less at the owner's request -- within reason. That is, Audi will not give you a new set of wiper blades 52 times per year for 4 years or 50,000 miles -- but they always replace mine, if I ask when I get my oil changed at 7,500 miles -- which is 2,500 miles "early") I got scared away thinking of the great nickel and dime death that awaited me.

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