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Re: Looking for advice [tidester] by jeffyscott
May 04, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: tidester (May 02, 2009 7:39 pm)

If I ask you what the price is, I'm not looking for anything binding. I just want to know whether it's in the affordability ballpark.
 
Surely you can figure that out without contacting a dealership? I have heard that there are sites on the internet that publish invoice prices and most rebate information .
 
For the most part, I do the ballpark price research myself, then test drives (which I generally arrange via an on-line contact, rather than just walking in).
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Re: Umm... [golic] by mikefm58
May 04, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: golic (May 04, 2009 6:33 am)

The lone exception is the internet salesman who sees that you live 75 miles away and will low ball you a quote, just to reek havoc for you.
 
I'm sure there are some who would do that, but I did have a good experience with a Honda dealer that was about 60 miles from me when I bought a 2005 Civic. We agreed on a price over email and sold it for that with no games.
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Re: Looking for advice [jeffyscott] by tidester HOST
May 04, 2009 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 04, 2009 6:46 am)

Surely you can figure that out without contacting a dealership?
 
Of course, but as I pointed out earlier, there are some people who do not avail themselves of those resources.
 
I have heard that there are sites on the internet that publish invoice prices and most rebate information.
 
Indeed there are and those few who don't make use of that site <shameless plug> should hurry on over and take advantage of the information. Then the problem of dealing with the salesperson for data would just go away.
 
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Re: Umm... [jipster] by boomchek
May 04, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 04, 2009 4:21 am)

misleading advertising to promise a "free" quote and then not give one
 
So you'll get a quote of MSRP minus rebates from me. I should have clarified. In my response I do probvide the following:
 
The stock number the customer inquired about if it is or isn't available. If it isn't available, I'll let them know we have a few similar models.
 
What the price is of that vehicle, and current specials on it.
 
What the advantages are by dealing with the Internet Dept.
 
If the customer wants anything more, as in negotiating to purchase TODAY, then we'll do things in person, opver the phone, or I'll get the customer to present me an offer.
 
Once again I don't want to shoot numbers to Mr. anonymous_shopperhotmail.com hoping that they'll match a mystery target price they have in mind, or hoping that they won't use those numbers to shop elsewhere.
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Re: Umm... [jipster] by lrguy44
May 04, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 04, 2009 4:21 am)

Like I said before, I will always include list or advertised price. That is a quote. Best price (if different) will come later. If I get a car discription with color, options, etc. and the I am ready to buy now, I will provide "best price".
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Re: Umm... [boomchek] by mikefm58
May 04, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (May 04, 2009 9:10 am)

The stock number the customer inquired about if it is or isn't available. If it isn't available, I'll let them know we have a few similar models.
 
There's a local Nissan dealer here that will tell the customer ANYTHING they want to hear to get them to come to the dealer.
 
Customer: I'm looking for a new Nissan Altima in the xxx trim, 6 cyl automatic sedan, in the royal blue color. Do you have those in stock?
 
Dealer: Yes, we have several that match that identically. When can you come in to take a test drive.
 
Customer: Is 10 AM this Saturday OK?
 
Dealer: Sounds great, see then.
 
10 AM Saturday at the dealership.
 
Dealer: Now what was it you were seeking? Oh yes, I have it here. We can get one like what you are seeking but we'll have to do a dealer trade.
 
Customer: Grrrrrr, Bye Bye.
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Re: Umm... [boomchek] by jipster
May 04, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (May 04, 2009 9:10 am)

Yeah, I don't blame you guys for not wanting to "shoot numbers". Just a "goodwill gesture" that the dealership is true to their word in providing a quote would satisfy me, at least initially.
 
My last vehicular purchase, almost 5 years ago, initially began on the internet. I provided every piece of information imaginable, except the VIN #. I didn't get anything but, "we have 8 of those in stock, come on down and we'll get you a good price".
 
I'm curious to how you guys would respond to an email request like this, "Dear internet salesperson, I was at your dealership 2 hours ago and have decided on the Jipmobile BLT. I had test driven it previously. The one on your lot with the VIN # 84948m4094k4998 is the one I want to buy... and I'm looking to buy right this second if we can agree on price."
 
Would you think this a serious/buy today buyer? What would you respond with written wise and quote wise... still try to get them to come into the dealership? Would you negotiate your best price, something in the middle, or still insist they come in?
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Re: Umm... [jipster] by lrguy44
May 04, 2009 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 04, 2009 10:30 am)

I think there is a slightly better than 15% chance (based on years of experience) that you are a serious buyer. I would respond in a couple of different ways, depending on if my advertised price was drop dead or not. if drop dead, I would let you know that and ask if there was a trade. If not, I would respond with a list/advertised price, ask what price you had in mind and ask if there is a trade. For us to agree on agree on a price, the trade issue must be resolved, and for the best deal I need to see the trade. The idea is to find out
A. Are you serious
B Do you have a fair price in mind (most do not)
C Is there a trade
D To build a dialogue.
 
If you respond that there is no trade and you want "best price" I will quote best price.
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Re: Umm... [jipster] by lrguy44
May 04, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 04, 2009 10:30 am)

Alos, if a lease quote is requested, I need to find out miles per year. if it is a payment quote, I will usually quote Tier 2 saying it may get better WAC. (With approved credit).
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Re: Umm... [jipster] by boomchek
May 04, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 04, 2009 10:30 am)

I would find out who you dealt with and would let that salesperson deal with you directly. I would not be getting involved because you were not my customer to begin with.

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