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Internet vs. Traditional Car Buying

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Re: Internet Research [lrguy44] by dtownfb
Apr 22, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: lrguy44 (Apr 22, 2009 9:32 am)


Because of Madoff should I cast slurs on ALL investment brokers?

 
This generalization I can understand!
 
I don't get the whole "don't tell them you are paying cash" argument either. payment is a separate part of the transaction. The best thing people can do if they are confused or unsure about anything in the transaction is ask the salesman if you can "sleep on the deal" and give a set time to call by xx a.m. the next morning.
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Re: Internet Research [lrguy44] by golic
Apr 22, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: lrguy44 (Apr 22, 2009 12:35 pm)

Every sale I ever made was a win-win or the deal would not have been done.
 
 --Oh c'mon, you can't tell me there has not been a time where your SM said do the deal and wanted to rip the buyers eye balls out?????
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Re: Internet Research [golic] by lrguy44
Apr 22, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: golic (Apr 22, 2009 12:48 pm)

If I sell a car - even if it is a mini deal - I have won. I made a sale and income. I also have another customer that may be good for referrals and repeat sales. On the other side, a win for the buyer is not always financial. It may be they got the car of thier dreams, the color they desired, etc. Believe me, in 38 years in sales you would not believe why some people buy. But to them it is a win.
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Re: Internet Research [tidester] by sanjaysdca
Apr 22, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Apr 22, 2009 12:30 pm)

"Win-win" works ONLY when both players are dedicated to it.
 
Very true... In most cases both parties are dedicated... IMHO its just how you approach it.
 
With the availability of information on the Internet - sites like edmunds etc. the playing field is levelled for buyers.
 
Which makes approaching the problem as win-win much easier.
 
You know whats the invoice, you know the incentives, you know the holdback.
If you dont like to deal with the dealers then just go to carsdirect.com... the prices are not that bad (considering no negotiation are involved)
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Re: Internet Research [annabellafitz] by lrguy44
Apr 23, 2009 (7:14 am)
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That sounded like a paid political announcement
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Looking for advice by jungle_cat
May 01, 2009 (2:17 pm)
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Sorry to trouble everyone again. I really appreciate all the advice offered. I thought I knew the type of car my wife wanted and as we got closer to the purchase date (the first week of July) I would email some dealers to get the pricing. Well today my wife tells me she is not sure and wants to go see the car and possibly test drive them. They are: Honda CRV, Honda Pilot, Toyota RAV4 or Toyota Highlander.
 
So my question is do I still email the dealers before going to get a quote; and tell them that it is between these cars and my wife would like to come in to look at the car and/or a test drive. And we would already have the pricing for the car. Or do we just go in first and send out the emails later.
 
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks!!
 
JC
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Re: Looking for advice [jungle_cat] by jwilliams2
May 01, 2009 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: jungle_cat (May 01, 2009 2:17 pm)

Why not go to the dealer, do the test drives, and when you find the car she wants, get prices on that model and configuration.
 
Seems silly to email for prices if you don't even know if she would consider the car. You would just be wasting a lot of peoples time.
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Re: Looking for advice [jwilliams2] by traindriver
May 01, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: jwilliams2 (May 01, 2009 3:10 pm)

Seems silly to email for prices if you don't even know if she would consider the car. You would just be wasting a lot of peoples time.
 
The flip side is that you are going to waste at least 3 salesmans time by driving a model that you will not ultimately buy. Maybe 4 people if the place where you drive the chosen model isn't competitive on price and end up buying from the 5th guy.
 
This is a good question and I hope that some salespeople will give some good insight. I would like to know this as well as I will be in "jungle cats" shoes in a few months myself.
 
Personally, I am thinking "get quotes first." The dealership can respond when it is convenient for them rather than me showing up to test drive at a busy or otherwise bad time. I'll have a better idea who to approach first when I see their quote and gain some insight to who might be the easiest to deal with and most helpful. It would seem to me to be less work to give a quote than to invest an hour or two if we end up too far apart on price, have personality conflicts, etc. If I nail down a price on the various models upfront, it may help narrow the decision process. A vehicle that I thought might be too expensive may come into play or I might find that one model is particularly hot and no discounts are available. I may be able to save myself and the dealer some time and effort if I know basically where I stand on each choice upfront. Pick the model that I am most interested in, price in hand, and visit the dealership in person to verify that the car drives and "feels" right. If so, write the check and take it home. If for some reason the car isn't what I expected it to be, then move to model choice #2 and repeat.
 
Edit: in jungle cats example, only two manufacturers, Honda and Toyota, are being considered so he will not have as many folks involved and as much running around to do as I will. We are considering several more manufacturers that will further complicate the process.
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Re: Looking for advice [traindriver] by jwilliams2
May 01, 2009 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: traindriver (May 01, 2009 6:18 pm)

Well, everyone has their own way of doing things. Having been on both sides of the fence, I think I can say you are not wasting any ones time by looking at and test driving a car you may want to buy. Its the only way for you to find out what you want. Thats what car dealers are for.
 
On the other hand, emailing many dealers (perhaps what, 3 or 4 per brand?) for prices when you don't even know if you will buy that particular car seems like a waste of their time as well as yours.
 
You should be able to get a good idea what they sell for right here on Edmunds. I really do think the time to get your multiple quotes is when you have decided exactly what you want. IMHO of course.

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