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Re: Asking [micosilver] by jmonroe
Apr 18, 2008 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: micosilver (Apr 16, 2008 5:09 pm)

Saying "Just give me your best price" is saying " I'm too lazy and ignorant to do my own research, so why don't you do that for me".
 
That’s not always the case. Although I don’t say “give me your best price”, I let the salesman go to the desk and come back with a price. It’s always too high and then to save time I give them my price. It’s a one time offer, take it or leave it and the last two times they took it.
 
Like in 05’ when I had an internet price that was high and when I called, I was told to come in and they would better the price. The store policy was you had to come in after the Internet price was given. Since the place was close I went in. The salesman goes to the desk, gives me a price that was too high. I gave him mine, deal done.
 
I told this tale once before.
 
I went to a Christmas party in 06’, there were some guys there that were talking about cars and buying them (imagine that). I had just bought in June of 06’ so I was interested in some of the war stories that were being told. This one guy says he went in with a large manila envelope and he slides the Internet reply from a dealer out of this envelope just far enough so that the salesman can see that it is a from another dealer. He then says, “This is from so and so as you can see and it’s a good price. If you can beat it I’ll buy from you”. The salesman asks if he can see it, to which he is told NO and this guy says, “This dealer didn’t ask to see anybody’s price when he gave his price to me, so it would be unfair if I showed you his price but like I said, if you beat it I’ll buy from you but you only have one shot at this”.
 
The salesman goes off to his higher authority and comes back with a price that is $50 higher than the Internet price. This guy says, “to have some fun,” he got up to leave saying, you missed…see ya. He had no intention of driving to this farther away dealer for $50 but before he could say, “OK it’s a deal”, the salesman says please don’t leave, give us another shot”. So, he sits down and is thinking this is going to be fun. The salesman comes back quickly with a price that is $150 less than his first price. So, not being so quick to say OK to the first price saved this guy $100. Of course the salesman wants to see the email and at first this guy didn’t want to show it to him but thought if he didn’t this could kill the deal, so he showed it to the salesman. The salesman looks at it, is shocked, and said, “you would have driven over THERE to save $50? To keep the deal he said, “sure, why not? Now both of them were happy.
 
You wouldn't know "best price" if it landed on your head, if you didn't do you research.
 
Now that I agree with.
 
jmonroe
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Re: Asking [obyone] by qbrozen
Apr 18, 2008 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Apr 17, 2008 8:51 am)

Some make it so hard to buy a vehicle with months of test driving and research. I really believe a "laydown" is the way to go.
 
yeah, yer right. Why try to find something you might enjoy? Just throw a dart at an inventory sheet at your nearest store (no matter the brand) and pay the asking price.
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Re: Asking [qbrozen] by obyone
Apr 18, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Apr 18, 2008 7:46 am)

Yeah I don't test drive. That way I'm surprised when picking up the vehicle and driving it home. To me test driving complicates the deal...it's like what if I don't like the way it drives, then my search for a vehicle would have to continue.
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Re: Asking [obyone] by mackabee
Apr 18, 2008 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Apr 17, 2008 8:51 am)

That is not a "lay down" oby kanobe. A lay down is someone who pays sticker for the car, buys mop and glo, and undercoating, then goes into F$I and gets slaughtered in there and comes out with a smile. They usually send you a lot of referrals. CSI is almost always 100% and they are always happy!
 
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Re: Asking [mackabee] by obyone
Apr 18, 2008 (11:52 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Apr 18, 2008 9:19 pm)

Ok Mack. Here's another. Back in mid 1997 I was looking to replace a Lincoln Mark VIII that was coming off of lease. So I read about the new Regal GS that was going to be a 1997.5 model. Went to the dealer. They had one demo on the lot and no cars for another two weeks.
 
I didn't bother test driving. Asked the salesman if we needed to do the grind and he said he would give me his best price and would call when the car came in. Two weeks later as promised he calls and asks if I was still intent on purchasing the vehicle. I said sure I'll be in later in the afternoon to wrap it up. He says fine it will be prepped and ready to go.
 
So here I walk in to the dealership and see the car up front looking really good. Black with chrome rims. I find the salesman and he walks with me over to F&I with his sales folder. Funny thing he sat in with the F&I manager. All the papers were already typed up and they asked if there was any of the mop and glo stuff that I wanted to add to the car like a spoiler, etc. I told them I wanted the windows tinted and since I had a month left on the lease they could keep the car till the tint guy could get at it.
 
Remember no price has been discussed since my last face to face where he assured me he would give his best price. So finally F&I guy gives me the sales contract to sign. I glance at the price....yep MSRP. Neither say anything so I asked if I could bypass the dealership and pay cash for the tint. The salesman says he can arrange a direct payment to the tint guy so thats no problem. I signed all the forms and the sales contract.
 
Two days later when picking up the car I asked the salesman how long have you been selling cars for this dealership. He says going on close to 40 years. He says it will be his first and last sales job. I also said to him hey George I thought you agreed that you would give me your best price for the car. He looks at me straight in the eye and says..."I did".
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Re: Asking [obyone] by jeffyscott
Apr 19, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Apr 18, 2008 11:52 pm)

I glance at the price....yep MSRP...I signed all the forms and the sales contract.
 
May I ask...why?
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Re: Asking [obyone] by micosilver
Apr 19, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Apr 18, 2008 11:52 pm)

Two days later when picking up the car I asked the salesman how long have you been selling cars for this dealership. He says going on close to 40 years. He says it will be his first and last sales job. I also said to him hey George I thought you agreed that you would give me your best price for the car. He looks at me straight in the eye and says..."I did".
 
Beautiful.
This is not a story about a laydown, this is a story about a true professional salesman.
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Re: Asking [micosilver] by jipster
Apr 19, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: micosilver (Apr 19, 2008 7:51 am)

This is not a story about a laydown, this is a story about a true professional salesman
 
I don't know about that. The salesman kept his word. But, I think it was a bit misleading in saying obyone katoby would be getting his best price. Which in most peoples minds would be less than MSRP. The fact that he looked him straight in the eye and said, "I did" doesn't mean he was telling the truth. Maybe he was... maybe he wasn't.
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Re: Asking [jeffyscott] by obyone
Apr 19, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Apr 19, 2008 7:42 am)

May I ask...why?
 
I signed because it seemed to be the logical thing to do.
 
The dealership received 4 Regal GS and only one in black. Without additional information like what's provided by Edmunds I was thinking that it could be the going rate for the car. Plus when comparing MONTHLY payment against the Lincoln I was saving $175 a month. Being a lease I'm also thinking I'll be out of the car in three years.

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