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98n chevy s-10 extreme security function trouble by charlotte40165
Nov 06, 2006 (11:28 am)
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Can anybody please tell me how to disconnect the security line?switch?fuse? i recently tried to start my truck and the ignition wouldn't even turn to the on position, so we had to break it out. My problem now is that I don't have the money to buy a new ignition yet so I planned on starting it with a screw driver, well the security feature is not allowing me to do that. When the security light is on the truck will start then die just as quick as you started it. A few times it has started anr run. Please, help.
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Re: 97 S10 No Start GASOLINE in Computer! [jlflick] by spincycle07
Nov 13, 2006 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: jlflick (Nov 05, 2006 2:53 pm)

I have a 97 Astro Van that has this exact same problem. I took it into the shop and they had no idea how gasoline could have gotten into the computer. They replaced the computer but didn't solve the problem. I then took it to another shop. They are looking at it right now, but the mechanic had heard of gasoline wicking up the wiring harness into the computer. I don't know where it is coming from, but I will find out when he gets it done. He thought it would take around 2 hours of labor. This mechanic said that it would definately fry the computer again if nothing was done to fix it. Very scary thinking that it could cause a pretty severe fire.
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Re: 98n chevy s-10 extreme security function trouble [charlotte40165] by canufixit
Nov 15, 2006 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: charlotte40165 (Nov 06, 2006 11:28 am)

I think remember reading that the security chip is a "Proximity" based system. Try taping your key to the steering column ??
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Re: 92 S-10 2WD 4.3Z door hinge [hoodlatch] by canufixit
Nov 15, 2006 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: hoodlatch (Nov 06, 2006 9:39 am)

Hood Latch , Why the need to replace the hinge ??? The Reason would change my reply/repair technique ..
 
Canufixit
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Re: 97 S10 No Start GASOLINE in Computer! [spincycle07] by jlflick
Nov 15, 2006 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: spincycle07 (Nov 13, 2006 11:01 am)

Thanks for the reply, I found that my spider injector assy is leaking up through the electrical connector. How it's getting up the wiring harness must either be by vibration or pressure? To wick I'd think would take cloth/absorbent material to travel on? It can't be gravity, the computer's higher than the intake. If there's a fix you find please advise?
 
Thanks again.
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Re: 92 S-10 2WD 4.3Z door hinge [canufixit] by hoodlatch
Nov 16, 2006 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: canufixit (Nov 15, 2006 12:09 pm)

Canufixit, thanks for the reply. Age has gotten to the hinge pin and has wallowed out the hole the pin goes through. On some cars in the past I've taken the hinge off, drilled the hole out over size and fitted a new pin. But the hinges use to be bolted on. I don't know what I'm dealing with on the S-10s.
Regards.
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Re: 92 S-10 2WD 4.3Z door hinge [hoodlatch] by canufixit
Nov 20, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: hoodlatch (Nov 16, 2006 5:14 pm)

As the pins are loose - I think I'd support the door - then punch out the pins?? Then rotate the door out so it is parallel to the front fender (I'm thinking of the electrical cables here ...) then drill out and replace the hinges as you said ??
 
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Re: 97 S10 No Start GASOLINE in Computer! [jlflick] by canufixit
Nov 20, 2006 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: jlflick (Nov 15, 2006 6:04 pm)

My inputs ...
 
The Injector (prefferably) and/or connector "should" be designed to prevent this - so I'd first look for this as root cause ... For a reason why it is getting into the computer "after" it get by the connector - I had a thought. Either Pressure in the cable from the ejector - or -
If the Computer is well sealed - the air inside will expand and contract with temp difference as it heats/cools - and if it does not have a vent ?? capable of letting air in/out (with not water/ dirt) to equalize the pressure - it might just be using the cable on it's end to do this... So when the air expands in the Computer case - it pushes out the cable - when it contract - the vacuum sucks on the cable and pulls the gas up ??
 
Fixing the injector connector/leak, to me, is the root cause here - but posssibly adding in a vent in the cable casing may be a possible work around - BUT BE CAREFUL if the gas is actually getting into the cable (pressure from the Injector side cable leak?) - then gas will, in instead of going in to the Computer case, go into the cable and squirt out - FIRE HAZARD .... Remember the injector inside is high pressure !!
 
To me this should be root caused and the NTSB be notified ..
 
I suggest you visit a dealer with your results to date (if they were not in the loop) - this should at least free you from any liability should you see the vehicle ..
 
Canufixit.
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Re: Fueling Problem [movelli] by canufixit
Nov 20, 2006 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: movelli (Oct 24, 2006 11:38 am)

Just a guess here ... I "thought" there is a small hose that goes from the gas tank to just inside the fuel fill neck. The attachment point in the tank is a in a special formed top of the tank that will "spit" gas back into the fill area. This is to trigger the auto pump shutoff so you will not over fill ??? (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here ...)
 
So I'm wondering if the "shape" of the tank is incorrect and it does nothave the required pocket of air - and/or the fuel during fill is splashing in the tank into this in tank hose opening - and triggering the fuel autoshut off ...
 
Also - The tank should Vent (I assume using the same hose??) to allow the air to escape when fueling ... perhaps the vent is too small - or blocked - so you pressurize the tank until it reaches a certain point - then Burps back the gas ???
 
If there is a "Kit" it must be known to a dealer ??? I'd visit a dealer - tell them you have a possibel fire hazard -and ask them to give it a check and give you a statement on your recipt that says it OK. (as they probably will not whant to do if the issue is real..) But this gets GM in the loop for liability ... Fuel issues should be at least reported to the NTSB if it cannot be resolved ...
 
Please advise what happens here ....
Canufixit...
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Re: Fueling Problem [canufixit] by canufixit
Nov 21, 2006 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: canufixit (Nov 20, 2006 9:14 am)

One More Dumb thought ....
 
 Was the vehicle like this when purchased - or did something change ?? If it did not do this originally - perhaps some joker put something in your Gas tank - I'm thinking stuffing in a small Barggie or larger garbage bag ??? This bag will fill with Air / Liquid - may block the vent (May cause the car to stall as well) - and - since liquids cannot compress - the internal trapped bag air will be able to be compress and cause the tank to pressureize and then squirt back under pressure ???
 
Again - just trying to brainstorm here ....

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