Last post on Dec 13, 2005 at 8:17 AM
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Aug 30, 2004 (7:08 am)
Good idea, especially with the cylinder deactivation technology that is still new.
Rebates are a mixed bag, they kill residuals so it ends up costing the same in the end. I also think the automakers just increase prices (in some cases 6 times a year) to make room for those rebates.
#435 of 483 Re: [ateixeira]
Aug 30, 2004 (11:34 pm)
Well, I have checked some of the consumer reports. They have so far shown the Dodge Magnum to hold its own. Do you understand why consumers talk about how cheap the interior of the Magnum looks and still buys the vehicle? I was reading a consumer review in Edmund. If I was that dissatisfied with a purchase I would take it back. Why stay with a vehicle that's not meeting your expectations? That's something I'll never understand about consumers. Those features you don't like aren't going to change after you buy the vehicle. Do you buy into e class suspension system and the mercedes components for the gear system? Do you really think that makes a difference in purchasing the Dodge Magnum? Or do you think everybody just wants the Hemi?
Aug 31, 2004 (5:42 am)
I haven't driven the new Hemi-equipped Magnum or 300-C, but I did drive the new Durango with that engine. Frankly I wasn't that impressed. The larger-still Armada felt quicker, and according to magazine road tests, IS quicker.
#437 of 483 Re: Hemi [rsholland]
Aug 31, 2004 (5:48 am)
Slow, slower, slowest you're talking about big SUV's with truck transmissions/gearing. The 300C clicked off 0-60 in 5.3 seconds and 13.9 102mph. Different ball game. The Armada is one of the faster SUV's on the market now and it only run 0-60 in 7.0 and a leisurely 15.5 89!
#438 of 483 Re: Hemi [sebring95]
Aug 31, 2004 (5:52 am)
Maybe, but you would think the larger, heavier Armada, with a smaller less powerful engine would be slower than the lighter more powerful Durango. Not so.
#439 of 483 Re: Hemi [rsholland]
Aug 31, 2004 (6:29 am)
The dodge truck drivetrains have always had more parasitic power loss IMHO. Plus from what I've heard, the Hemi doesn't wake up until it has a few miles on it so green engine test drives might not be completely accurate on the butt-o-meter.
According to Car and Driver, the Armada and Durango are very close in performance. Picking nits for the most part to say one is quicker than the other. Durango is slightly behind in 0-60, slightly ahead in the 1/4 mile.
I think performance is certainly a draw for the Magnum and I haven't heard anyone say the power was ho-hum unless perhaps they stepped out of an extremely high performance car. Granted some folks have different tastes in performance, but typically the powerband of a V8 matches my driving style well. My 4cyl VW diesel being the exception.
#440 of 483 Re: Hemi [rsholland]
Aug 31, 2004 (7:29 am)
i'll state the obvious:
power and weight are only part of the equation. Gearing makes a HUGE difference. And, of course, the peak power numbers don't tell you about the entire power band, either.
Aug 31, 2004 (8:01 am)
Magnum is too new, IMO, for any reliability data to be significant. Initial Quality, maybe, though.
And yes, I do think people buy into the Hemi marketing even if they find the interior is cheap in their opinion. Priorities, I guess.
Mar 25, 2005 (3:19 pm)
Consider these wagon comparison test ideas
Audi A4 Avant
BMW 3 Series
Mercedes C Class
Jaguar X Type
#443 of 483 Bose Audio System
Apr 12, 2005 (3:30 pm)
A little off topic, but I plan to purchase a Mazda 6 GT Sport Wagon. Can anyone tell me if the optional Bose audio system is MP3 compatible and is there a way to connect an iPod to this system?