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Ford F-150, Ford F-250, Ford F-350, Truck
Mar 18, 2002 (7:10 am)
Sure, companies hire and fire people. But not on the scale it's been done lately. "Dell has announced layoffs of 5,000 of its workforce in Austin, TX". Do those headlines ring a bell? That's bulk firing right there. All industries are so close to each other nowdays, if one falls, others will feel the impact and feel it good.
We are talking about Ford here, btw. You are changing it to Toyota and Toyotas' faults. Maybe Toyota does not employ 30K people....great. Ford is employing 30K less now, and Toyota employees keep on working (hopefully). They are taking home a paycheck and whatever else benefits.
What about Mexico? Ford's been building parts in Mexico for a while now, nobody in US seems to be complaining. If Toyota can build parts for cheaper and lower prices, great. I'm not going to be complaining.
#101 of 129 scorpio.......
Mar 18, 2002 (12:12 pm)
nice dodge. looks like you may have learned a little bit, like what compound interest is? eh? its on your side bud. oh yeah, what wouldn't i understand? you're the one who won't reply to the post. how do those toenails taste?
Mar 18, 2002 (2:27 pm)
Why are you trying real hard to get me into this discussion? I have no desire to try and talk to you about what education I have and how to manage my money. I don't know how the toenails taste, thank you very much, and have no plans to find out. Are you speaking from personal experience? It seems that you are feeling a little....pissed off? For all the things you've said that turned out to be complete nonsense (that you have defended so vigirously...does "Who taught you physics?!?" ring a bell, just to name one?), you are trying to find a person who you can blabber about how much money you made during the economic recession, how nice your new Harley is, how great a nightschool diploma in CJ from Simpson is, etc. Get a dog for that.
#103 of 129 Looks like this (off) topic is killed, thanks
Mar 18, 2002 (4:12 pm)
Mar 18, 2002 (10:27 pm)
just like i thought, you don want to talk. you're the one who claimed we were in a recession, (thus starting this convo), so i am just stating reasons why i think we are not. do yourself a favor, and start some investments. it's not hard. your toyota is definitely not an investment. a hog otoh, definitely is.
Mar 19, 2002 (6:52 am)
Ford trucks are the number one selling truck for 25 years, isn't it? That is going back a few years.
I know some people don't care about sales volume, stating it has nothing to do with how great a vehicle is. These people tend to drive vehicles that aren't #1.
Let us not forget that you should not buy a vehicle because it is the best selling. You should buy the vehicle that fits your needs, wants, budget, and expectations. Being the best selling vehicle is not the cause of being the best vehicle. The best selling statistics is the effect of being the best vehicle.
Let's see, I have a friend with a 1969 F100 Ranger that can still tow very well. My father has a 1990 F150 XLT Lariat, that is in pristine condition. He's looking at a 2002 F150, but just doesn't want to trade in a truck that runs so good. I goto Oklahoma often to visit my Girlfriends family. Her father drives a 2001 F150 with a V10, and her grandfather owns 3 Fords on his Ranch in Ada. Roughly a 1981, 88, and a 92. My girlfriend's uncle drives a 2001 F-250 diesel crew cab 4x4. We loaded up the gooseneck trailer one weekend, had over 3 cords of wood loaded in the bed and trailer, plus about 100-150 bags of feed. Just picture a longbed 4x4 F-250, with a 30 foot trailer behind it filled up to the brim. And the last leaf spring on the pickup was barely down to the conact points on the frame. With family on the inside, we drove back from Oklahoma to the McKinney area of north texas. His loaded up f-250 was hard to keep up with in our 2001 Accord. One of my friends in college has a farm in Texas, and he drove a early 90's F150. This last one was beat up, but farm work on top of a 20 year old behind the wheel you do the math. My old roomate had a leased 96ish base F150, manual v6 and all. Let's just say after the 2 or so years he owned it, the oil never got changed, the clutch was dropped many a times, and he drove that thing all over Texas(and other states, even up to Montana). After turning it in, with all that abuse, he wished he owned it still today. All trucks mentioned still run great, no matter how much abuse, milage, or neglect.
My point to make is that I don't think I am biased against buying other brands, even though I am surrounded by Fords. Our minds are not changed by a few simple recalls. When we get a letter, we just take the Ford in and have a part replaced or serviced, and go on our happy ways. Ford does take care of it's customers.
I guess it really comes down to brand loyalty. You buy a Ford Truck typically because you know someone who has one, or have one in the family. Then you will know what Built Ford Tough really means. That's why you older Ford's trucks still on the road, because they just don't die. Ford still offers the best deals on trucks. You just can't get more of a truck for such a great deal. If you're a commuter, a home depot regular, a kid hauler, or if you hook up and haul anything for the farm, you really can't go wrong with a Ford.
Mar 19, 2002 (7:25 am)
The only time a vehicle is an investment is when it is a classic model. 1960s Mustangs and Camaros are an investment. Your everyday Ford Ranger and my Toyota Tacoma are not investments.
Quit trying to impress people with your statements like "Why don't you start some investments". You are not as smart as you think you are, and others are not as dumb as you think they are.
#107 of 129 midnight_stang
Mar 19, 2002 (7:55 am)
"I don't think I am biased against buying other brands"
How much did Ford pay you for post # 100 advertisement?
You are good! Ford ought to put you on TV.
I'm headed to the nearest Ford store right now to trade in my three vehicles for three
"Built Ford Tough" trucks! Yahoooooo!!!
Mar 19, 2002 (8:57 am)
Thank you for the laugh and the smile for the day I needed that.
"Just picture a longbed 4x4 F-250, with a 30 foot trailer behind it filled up to the brim. And the last leaf spring on the pickup was barely down to the conact points on the frame. With family on the inside, we drove back from Oklahoma to the McKinney area of north texas. His loaded up f-250 was hard to keep up with in our 2001 Accord."
Now pull my other leg it plays jingle bells.
Mar 19, 2002 (9:49 am)
I understand your skepticism, you're a Toyota Owner, and I'm a "misguided", big bad Ford owner.
Ok, Briefly: We could have easily beaten him in top speed (That 2.3l accord can do 100+ easy) However, when you get a speeding ticket going 25 miles over the limit (thanksgiving weekend, girlfriend driving) you don't want to chance another one on the way back home.
Do I have to put so much detail into every post?
Do you want my posts to be longer?
But the point was he was doing well over the speed limit in moderate traffic (about 85 or 90 when the limit was 65), and wasn't running out of steam any time soon. Some day you may know what a 7.3l Turbo Diesel engine can deliver. It's no race truck, but it can probably haul your house off it's foundation.
mrb11--->I'm not biased. If I see another brand that offers the same amount of vehicle for as good a price, I'll get one. My post was just reflecting on how lots of unrelated people happen to stand by Ford, when they could have purchased ANYTHING else on the market.
Hey, that's my opinion and commentary on "why Ford F series trucks are the #1 vehicle sold in the world".