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#5317 of 5338 Re: cash option? [kyfdx]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
May 08, 2013 (8:29 am)
In places I've lived, it seems the quality of public education is correlated with the education, or interest in education, of the population in that area. Where I live now, public schools are great - but it's also the 13th most educated town in the nation: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2006/top25s/educated.html
When I lived in St. Louis, the 'burbs that had higher percentages of educated adults had better public schools. Seems the same in Kansas City, though none of my kids ever went to school there.
Also, moving to Columbia, MO dropped my auto insurance by about 30%.
#5318 of 5338 I live in Georgia
May 08, 2013 (8:51 am)
where the public schools are not that good (many public school graduates, upon matriculating to a GA University, find they spend their "freshman" year in remedial courses), yet, with Emory University, Georgia Tech and Univ of Georgia, we have some fine universities...what a dichotomy.
#5319 of 5338 Grade Inflation and
May 08, 2013 (3:39 pm)
Self esteem inflation is more prevalent in the public schools because the main function of the teacher is to keep the average daily attendance as high as possible. The state rewards the district accordingly. To encourage attendance, the teachers don't assign homework so when Pimple Face enters a 4 year university, he spends (wastes) a lot of money (tuition) taking Bonehead English, Remedial Math, Sucker Science, & other needy courses so he might be eligible a year later as a Red shirt Freshman.
#5320 of 5338 Re: cash option? [houdini1]
May 08, 2013 (3:58 pm)
>only people who think our public schools are great, either work for them or get a pension from them. Some are good, most are horrible.
What would Richard64 say to that?
#5321 of 5338 Re: Grade Inflation and [euphonium]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
May 08, 2013 (6:29 pm)
That's not our experience at all.. and, our son graduated just last year.
Lots and lots of homework, 30 hours (not a typo) of advanced placement college credit, and Honors classes for freshman year in college. And, he wasn't even in the top 10% of his graduating class.
All in our local public school..
#5322 of 5338 Re: Grade Inflation and [kyfdx]
May 08, 2013 (7:18 pm)
>That's not our experience at all.. ...Lots and lots of homework, 30 hours (not a typo) of advanced placement college credit, and Honors classes for freshman year in college. ... All in our local public school....
My wife's retired friends say that communities get the schools they deserve. If the community wants to be a bunch of fools valuing athletics and other social things over academics, they get the school to do as they wish, and therefore get the results from their schools same as their community's values. Period. The school represents the community.
Rush Limbow can say it as often as he wants to stigmatize the public schools, but it's not true.
Our son had a similar experience to KYFDX's. He turned down the advanced physics and calculus AP credit on advice because his major involved those courses at OSU, but he used the other credits. He was glad he did take the calculus and phsics afterwards because there was a lot of expanded content in the college course at this, a really academic college, in the courses where he did start.
On the topic of insurance, I don't think I can claim the cracked paint on the rear bumper of my Cobalt from someone pushing against the plastic bumper and flexing it. That caused the paint to crack off in one spot and just crack and crinkle in a couple of others higher up. I'll wait until he's moved out of the high density parking lot for the 33 residents of the 5 1/2 apartments in July, then I'll see how much repaint will cost. I know it's a lot because it's the sides of the rear fenders all as a part of the rear bumper too.
#5323 of 5338 Re: cash option? [imidazol97]
May 09, 2013 (7:05 am)
I have no idea, but it would be very interesting to see what Richard had to say on this subject. I wish he would chime in.
I had wonderful teachers when I was growing up, and for the most part, so did my kids. I am not concerned about most individual teachers, my concerns are about the system these teachers have to operate under.
I say reward individual teachers where warranted and get rid of about half of the school administrators and the teachers who don't do a good job. But this seem to be impossible under our current system.
#5324 of 5338 Re: cash option? [houdini1]
May 09, 2013 (12:37 pm)
Merit pay to teachers leads to professional competition & the chalk clinching mouth breathers don't want that & they vote accordingly on union issues.
Perpetual mediocrity insures job security & tenure. Because teachers go on strike - they don't qualify to be professionals. Charter, military prep, & private academies place their graduates in universities with better graduating success than public school candidates. It didn't used to be that way, but it is now.
#5326 of 5338 Re: cash option? [houdini1]
Jun 20, 2013 (5:40 pm)
I'd have to second that opinion, sad to say here in NJ the public school system is a mess. So many teachers just "putting in their time". Also a lack of respect for traditional American traditions (ie: the pledge of allegiance is being phased out) . Not to mention folks who opt to send their kids to parochial schools but still must pay for the local public school.
There must be a better way ! The voucher system sounds promising. Anything to reduce gov't involvement in the education of our children. Simply living within the boundaries of school A should not be a death sentence. Given the vochure system ..... a child would have the opportunity to apply for the school(s) of their choice. And the schools would have a right to set their own requirements (based solely on academic standards) .