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#5128 of 5324 Cost of Repairs
Oct 19, 2012 (8:36 am)
A friend of mine who drives a Ford F150 P.U., recently had his driver side rear view mirror taken off by a city bus. A weird accident, and no other damage was done. I was astounded that the repair estimate was over $1800.
#5129 of 5324 Re: Insurance [Mr_Shiftright]
by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 19, 2012 (8:55 am)
Not really a fair comparison. Most Americans would be outraged at sacrifice to the god Kali because they would not perceive any benefit. Plus, that would be a guaranteed death of 40,000 Americans, without regard to whether they had any input into their demise.
Most Americans DO see a benefit to the risk of driving. I'm less concerned about dying in an auto accident than I am wasting precious hours of my life trying to get from point A to point B. Sure, I could walk to the grocery, at a cost of 1 hour of my life every day (every day, because there's only so much I can carry). I could walk to the nearest bus station, 20 miles away, when I want to visit my parents, and then walk another 5 miles to their house. But why?
Plus, there are plenty of traffic deaths that are avoidable or caused by the person who meets their demise - alcohol, distraction/inattention, inadequate safety features in vehicle or failure to use features (seatbelts, headlights), driving in known dangerous conditions (icy roads)... there are choice that affect your likelihood of survival.
#5130 of 5324 Re: Insurance [kirstie_h]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 19, 2012 (9:20 am)
Alcohol and smoking deaths are self-inflicted but on the highway there are people ready to kill you. There is a difference there.
Think about how long it took for tougher drunk-driving laws. Or think about how anyone with a body temperature of 98.6 can pass our ridiculously simple driving tests and go out any buy a 600 HP car. Scary stuff.
#5132 of 5324 Re: Insurance [fezo]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 20, 2012 (8:34 am)
Wise words from Grandpa. Trust no one. His blinker is on for a right turn? Presume it's been stuck for a week.
Oct 22, 2012 (1:48 pm)
I really think that the greatest harm is that the police in PA do not come unless there is bodily injury...you can total out a car and come out unscathed, yet the cops do not come to determine who is, obviously or not obviously, at fault...that is a problem, IMO...that allows ANYONE to say anything at the scene and retract the story later...that can happen anywhere, but a police report, while not the Gospel, documenting what may be obvious (skid marks, witness names, etc) can certainly help to determine fault...
Other poster: people CAN suffer injuries at what most call a "low speed collision"...while this does not always happen, I had a client who fractured a cervical vertebra (i.e.broken neck) at being rear-ended at 10-15 mph...all you need is a 10-15 mph differential and the "whiplash effect" snaps your neck back and forth (or side to side) and can cause injury...yes, some do fake it, but the biomechanics of a low speed collision still can cause injury to the spine, and, no, seatbelts do NOTHING to stop that injury...some folks say that seatbelts ENHANCE the injury by holding your body in place, but that is preferable to having your body fly thru the windshield, a la Jayne Mansfield...
#5134 of 5324 Re: victor23 [marsha7]
Oct 22, 2012 (2:38 pm)
Thanks, marsha7, for your comments. That was not "Other poster"; actually both posts were mine. In that case, there was no speed difference of 10-15 mph, it was indeed a NYC traffic jam with stop-and-go at ~5 mph, as much as I could gather. The rear-ended party only complained that he is late for the party, and nobody ever heard from him for 2 years, until recently. Legal experts say that what he is presenting looks like an X-ray of a very old spine problem, though a more thorough review is in order.
Oct 24, 2012 (8:56 am)
Assuming the x-ray was taken shortly after the collision, any degenerative arthritis is proof positive of an old problem, simply because arthritic spurring and thinning discs take a lot of time to show up on film...years...if they were present at the time of the collision, they were probably pre-existing for at least a year or longer...